Air's multicopter project

ananas1301

Crazy flyer/crasher :D
Someone said propsavers don't do good on tricopters...

I know but I´ve seen other people trying propsavers themselfes (I think even including David) so I though I´ll just give it a try.

http://rcexplorer.se/projects/TriV2/TriV2.html <--- he was using propsavers...

I don´t know if it is going to work but I don´t have any quicker option now. I had an open order at a shop and as a result of me trying to somehow get on with the build I didn´t really need cables, that I ordered. So I changed them to Propsavers and CA, kinda for free, it would have been even better if they would´ve had the proper ones but you know.
 

Trinom

Crazy electrician
Those are simply big, 10 mm wide zip-ties. Pretty stiff and light and serve as landing gear very well.
That's very good idea, but I have one question for you - How did you attach them to the copter? In normal way these big zip ties lock more and more when you press them.
 

ananas1301

Crazy flyer/crasher :D
That's very good idea, but I have one question for you - How did you attach them to the copter? In normal way these big zip ties lock more and more when you press them.

If we stay with Davids Zip ties theme then I´d just another 2 small zip ties to attach the big zip tie to the frame. :D
 

Airwolf

Senior Member
That's very good idea, but I have one question for you - How did you attach them to the copter? In normal way these big zip ties lock more and more when you press them.

As you can see in the photo I posted above ( http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6082/imag0557xq.jpg ) I simply attached them with smaller zip-ties (on the rear arm it's also held in place by yaw mechanism bolts). Also big ties that I used have slightly different ratchet (180* unlike 90* like most ties do).

I'll post better photos later...
 

Airwolf

Senior Member
Over two years have passed since I started this thread... In 2012 I flew a glider mostly, so I didn't played with multirotors much... then In the autumn 2012 I've build all-aluminum H-Quad with KK (v1) board (basically all the electronics from the tricopter above)...

http://forum.flitetest.com/showthread.php?2357-H-Quad-Scratch-Build&p=33892#post33892

It worked... a bit, but I crashed it before I even learned how to fly it well and it was hard to repair...

In the meantime I took an Georgia Institute of Technology internet course on control of mobile robots and learned alot about all the things needed to understand how the flight controllers work (especially about PID regulator and all the math).

Then I finally decided to buy ArduPilot Mega 2.5 with uBlox GPS. I've installed it on my old tricopter frame (with minor modifications) - and wow what a stability (compared to the old HK KK boards). I finally learned how to fly multirotors.

My scratch built tricopter with APM 2.5 (David's frame design mostly):

Plush 40A ESCs, HK Metal Gear Analog 9g Servo, DT750s and 11x4,7 or 12x4,5 Props. 2x1300mAh in parallel or 1x2200mAh 3S packs. Around 8-10 minutes of flight (with camera on board).

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Some video footage:

It flew like a charm even without PID tunning at all.

Later I added an UHF telemetry module.

Finally last October I decided to dismantle it.

I designed a better frame and got it CNC cut from 1,5 mm black glass laminate.

I did a minor mistakes in this design but refined the flaws and now I'm pretty satisfied with the final product (I already got even more refined version in the CAD files).

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As you can see it still has DT750's from my first tricopter, same ESCs etc.

It's also equipped with a BL gimbal with martinez controller. I just ordered bigger batteries because it's heavier (still hovers at 50% throttle though).

I already flitetested it - some minor tuning is required (small oscillations).


It's also very easy to convert it into Y6 copter (which I might do this spring - finally getting rid of DT750s and using SimonK firmware ESCs).

My other plans include a hexacopter - either based on the 550 V2 HK frame (or similar DJI clone with integrated PCB) or custom build frame (I have some crazy ideas for this frame).

Also I would like to build some smaller quad - like TBS Discovery Pro (which unfortunatelly is way too pricy for me) for FPV (but first I've got to complete my FPV equipment - at the moment I miss only a camera - I have all other necessary parts including MinimOSD for APM).
 

Airwolf

Senior Member
After only one flight I decided to upgrade the tri to Y6.
Y6 is equiped with Turnigy Multistar 22130-980kv motors and Afro 30A SimonK ESCs.
I also added Mobius camera and Boscam 5.8 GHz video downlink with MinimOSD and some beacon lights, check this out:


Unfortunatelly last week I fried my APM 2.5.2 :( It's in the repair shop at the moment (hopefully it will work - I already know it's Schotky protection diode and voltage regulator I burned).
 

Airwolf

Senior Member
Current status:

fixed the APM 2.5.2 (replaced the protection diode and voltage regulator).


Flight controller: APM 2.5.2 + GPS LEA-6H + Power Module
Cam, gimbal: Mobius, gimbal od JR65, Martinez BLDC gimbal controller with Turnigy 2208 motors
FPV: Mobius, MinimOSD, Boscam TS-832 600 mW, 5.8 GHz Tx
Propulsion: Turnigy Multistar 2213-980, ESC Afro 30A (SimonK), 10x4,5 props (cheap'o GemFans, but it's very hard to get anything else at the moment)
Battery: 3S 4000 mAH + 3S 500mAH for FPV Tx

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I've removed the wheels since I took the photos...

Flies nicely on default PIDs with just a basic accelerometer and compass calibration. I've got to run PID auto-tune and compassmot - then it should be even better.

Hovers at 50% throttle.

First test flight with Y6 setup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JvUYMCRQ8
 

Airwolf

Senior Member
Thanks.

I removed the wheels because I got flat tire over night ;)
Foam got squashed under the weight of the craft.

I installed them to get a little softer landings, but I didn't really liked the looks too...