Aura 5 with R88 Rx ?'s

alan0043

Elite member
Hi Everyone,

Has anyone used a Radiomaster R88 Rx with a Aura 5, like Josh has done with the new Scout XL Super ? I have gone into the Aura 5 config and had no luck to get things to talk right. When I have the R88 Rx installed by it's self and everything is good .Everything moves in the right direction. But here is the problem went hooking up the Aura 5 with the R88 and things go wrong. The direction always seems to follow the protocol T A E R. I know the Aura 5 likes T A E R. , but he config doesn't change things when I go into the config. Want I'm I missing ?

All input is welcomed,
 

Houndpup Rc

Master member
Hi Everyone,

Has anyone used a Radiomaster R88 Rx with a Aura 5, like Josh has done with the new Scout XL Super ? I have gone into the Aura 5 config and had no luck to get things to talk right. When I have the R88 Rx installed by it's self and everything is good .Everything moves in the right direction. But here is the problem went hooking up the Aura 5 with the R88 and things go wrong. The direction always seems to follow the protocol T A E R. I know the Aura 5 likes T A E R. , but he config doesn't change things when I go into the config. Want I'm I missing ?

All input is welcomed,
I believe if it is moving the servos it is on a PWM protocol though I could be wrong. @LitterBug?
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
Moderator
I have used a variety of RXes with the Aura 5, but not the R88. I started out in the hobby using Spektrum which is TAER without exception. I decided a long time ago to map all my models TAER so I didn't have to remember what plane,radio, etc was mapped what. So I hhave had to remap just about everything but Spektrum. FrSky, ELRS, etc.... all mapped the same to save myself confusion.

Both the Transmitter and receiver can be remapped. In your case the Aura5 would need to be mapped the same as the transmitter. Give us a screenshot of your inputs, mixing, and outputs tab. on your transmitter. Once we see that we can look at the config on the Aura side and make sure they are both expecting the same thing on the same channels. Also, what channels do you have the throttle, aileron, elevator and rudder plugged in on the Aura?

LB
 

alan0043

Elite member
Hi Guys,

Thank you for the help. The forum was so slow yesterday (4/8), I could not get in so I did a little test. Josh talked about in the SS Scout build video that the out puts on the R88 receiver are still active. I plugged a servo into the R88 and watched it's movement. The Aura board was also plugged in during the test. When I moved the stick for the aileron the servo the was plugged into that spot responded correctly. But the ailerons on the plane that were plugged into the Aura did not respond. But the throttle responded. I think you get the idea. Unplug the Aura the plane controls respond correctly.

The R88 is A,E,T,R
Aura board ( This is how the plane is plugged in )
* S1 throttle
*S2 aileron L
*S3 aileron R
*S4 elevator
*S5 rudder

I believe the problem is with the Aura. I have tried the config tool on the Aura and I don't seem to make any head way. I must be doing something wrong. I believe it is something simple. :unsure: :)
 

Houndpup Rc

Master member
Hi Guys,

Thank you for the help. The forum was so slow yesterday (4/8), I could not get in so I did a little test. Josh talked about in the SS Scout build video that the out puts on the R88 receiver are still active. I plugged a servo into the R88 and watched it's movement. The Aura board was also plugged in during the test. When I moved the stick for the aileron the servo the was plugged into that spot responded correctly. But the ailerons on the plane that were plugged into the Aura did not respond. But the throttle responded. I think you get the idea. Unplug the Aura the plane controls respond correctly.

The R88 is A,E,T,R
Aura board ( This is how the plane is plugged in )
* S1 throttle
*S2 aileron L
*S3 aileron R
*S4 elevator
*S5 rudder

I believe the problem is with the Aura. I have tried the config tool on the Aura and I don't seem to make any head way. I must be doing something wrong. I believe it is something simple. :unsure: :)
I personally have never had a radiomaster, but do they have a spot where you can select the protocol output like you can do with FlySky?
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
Moderator
Loaded up the aura config tool and plugged in an Aura5 that has been programmed with the FT Retro Rocket profile. On the initial screen after doing a "read from aura" I see that the Channel Order under Transmitter and Receiver Setup is set to A, E, T, R . Looks like they had it set up for a RadioMaster TX/RX. Here's a Screenshot.
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So if you can, Check that setting on your Aura. That order MUST match the order in your transmitter.

After you change that, do a Write All To Aura, Then restart the board. If you enable Live Data on the initial screen and scroll down, you can see the Input Monitor and Transmitter Verification. When you move your transmitter sticks, They should exactly match what you see on the screen. That is when you know the Transmitter/RX is set up right.
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Let us know if you get that part working right. If the correct channels move with stick movements, but are reversed, This is the ONLY time you will want to reverse a channel in the radio. The sticks MUST exactly mirror here or something is not configured correctly between your transmitter and the Aura.

If later you find that the servos move in the wrong direction, they MUST be adjusted in the Aura config tool, Not the radio.

Cheers!
LB
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
Moderator
FYI, the picture below is what can happen if you reverse your channels in the radio rather than in the Aura. This wasn't with an Aura, but similar. Took off fine in manual mode. When I switched to leveling mode, the Elevator was backwards on the board and the board instantly pulled the elevator back instead of pushing it down. The plane went straight up. Straighter than straight! Stalled, and went Straight down. Straighter than Straight. All faster than I could figure out what happend, and react.

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alan0043

Elite member
Thank you Litter Bug so much for your help. I am hoping to dig into this problem this weekend. Thank you again for the help. Al

Right now I don't know how to do screen shots. :unsure: :) To bad that the profile for the new Super Scout is not available. I am working on the original version of the Scout XL.
 
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Spitfire76

Elite member
I just picked up on this thread so will try to help.

What model TX are you using and what OS is it running ?.

I have a Radiomaster TX16s running Edge TX and if you need it can share my config file.

I would first make sure that you can successfully bind your TX to the R88 and test one of the PWM outputs with a servo.

For the receiver to communicate to the Aura the sbus of the receiver needs to be connected to port B on the Aura


Here is the Aura config file I am using for the Super Scout XL although I too would like to see the one Josh used but its not in the store under Aura or Super Scout XL.
 

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alan0043

Elite member
I just picked up on this thread so will try to help.

What model TX are you using and what OS is it running ?.

I have a Radiomaster TX16s running Edge TX and if you need it can share my config file.

I would first make sure that you can successfully bind your TX to the R88 and test one of the PWM outputs with a servo.

For the receiver to communicate to the Aura the sbus of the receiver needs to be connected to port B on the Aura


Here is the Aura config file I am using for the Super Scout XL although I too would like to see the one Josh used but its not in the store under Aura or Super Scout XL.

wait its not allowing me to load that extension I will try another way.

Hi Spitfire,

Thank you for jumping in on the thread. I appreciate everyone's help. My TX16 is running Open Tx. After I bound my Tx to the R88 (D16) I checked all the controls with a servo and the servo's responded correctly ( A,E,T,R). The problem starts when I hook up the Aura board. The controls on the plane do not respond correctly or the same way as when hooked up to the R88. I have the Aura hooked up to port B on the Aura. A little later today I want to check my Aura config screen against the screen shot that Littler Bug posted and see if where is a difference. That wouldn't happened for a couple more hours. I have somethings around the house I need to take care of. After I check out the screens shots I will post what I found. I have a feeling that it is something simple that I am doing wrong in the Aura config tool. :unsure: :)
 

Spitfire76

Elite member
Hi Spitfire,

Thank you for jumping in on the thread. I appreciate everyone's help. My TX16 is running Open Tx. After I bound my Tx to the R88 (D16) I checked all the controls with a servo and the servo's responded correctly ( A,E,T,R). The problem starts when I hook up the Aura board. The controls on the plane do not respond correctly or the same way as when hooked up to the R88. I have the Aura hooked up to port B on the Aura. A little later today I want to check my Aura config screen against the screen shot that Littler Bug posted and see if where is a difference. That wouldn't happened for a couple more hours. I have somethings around the house I need to take care of. After I check out the screens shots I will post what I found. I have a feeling that it is something simple that I am doing wrong in the Aura config tool. :unsure: :)
I have installed an Aura on all my planes, I think I may have 10 of them!. I recall that the Aura expects the channel order to be T,A,E,R by default whereas the default channel order on the TX16 is A,E,T,R. In my case I changed the order on the TX to match the Aura but you can configure the Aura to change it to match the TX.
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I also believe that you have to have the correct Multi-Module firmware installed that matches the chosen order.

 

Spitfire76

Elite member
Hi Everyone,

I was able to get the Aura back to factory settings from following one of Josh videos. :) 😀 More to follow a little later.

If I am re-using an Aura 5 Lite from a previous model then I'll use that method to reset the config then use the wizard to build a new one. I will also update the firmware and bootloader if needed from the Aura Tools drop down menu . Even new Auras don't always have the latest firmware which is currently

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alan0043

Elite member
Hi Everyone,

A little update. I appreciate everyone's help. I was able to write to the Aura with the following protocol . A,E,T,R. The Rx (R88) also has the same protocol but the plane does not follow that protocol. The plane wants to follow the protocol of T,A,E,R (Spectrum). I am taking a break away from the plane for a couple of days. The plan is to take the plane with me on Thursday night to the field. There is one person I know that can help me. He will be at the field this Thursday. The next time I get back to the thread with a report will be Friday (4/18). I will let everyone know what we find. :unsure: :giggle: The plan to to have the plane and my computer in hand. Wish me luck.
 

alan0043

Elite member
Hi Everyone,

Update. I was able to get my Scout XL up and flying with the help of my friend. Thursday night is flying night at the field for the group of guys I fly with. My friend had his computer with him and he down loaded the tune for the Aura that he uses for his Scout XL. He is also using an R88 Rx with an Aura. I did need to move some wires or leads on the Aura. The following is the wire layout on the Aura now.
S1 Throttle
S2 Ailerons with Y hardness
S3 Elevator
S4 Rudder
S5 open/ no wires
The Aura is also set-up to be A.E.T.R.
Transmitter set-up is custom.

Here is the funny part of this whole story. I thought I saved my first Aura set-up to file but No ! 😅 I was hoping to compare the two different tunes on the Aura to see what I did wrong. The Tx set-up was ok with a minor adjustment. The nice thing is that I am able to fly the plane. :giggle: I wanted to learn about the Aura on my own. I have a lot to learn.

Thanks everyone for the help,
Al