Baby Baron Gotha Gaggle for Flite Fest 2016!

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I'm with the "Baby Brit" on this one - interested in making one of them too, but also thinking about making an allied bipe - I have 3 other bipes in my hangar, and seem to be on a theme. :)

There are also plans for a 1/12th semi-scale Fokker D.VII forthcoming. TEAJR66 is working on that design with me and he has already built the first prototype. Once I get the Baby Brit sorted, I will be helping him to finalize the design and hopefully have plans up in time for people to build them before Flite Fest.

Things are moving fast!
 

rockyboy

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Rasterize, if I could get in line on the allied side with this scheme I'd be very grateful.

I confirmed the tops of the wings are the same tan as the fuselage with roundels placed just like the bottom view.

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Thank you!
 
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AkimboGlueGuns

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That thing looks very Italian! Do you know who flew it? I've been doing research on the people who flew all the planes on this thread if I can find them.
 

rockyboy

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There are also plans for a 1/12th semi-scale Fokker D.VII forthcoming. TEAJR66 is working on that design with me and he has already built the first prototype. Once I get the Baby Brit sorted, I will be helping him to finalize the design and hopefully have plans up in time for people to build them before Flite Fest.

Things are moving fast!

SWEET!! I had "build 3 planes for FTFF" on my to-do list. Looks like that queue is all full now with Baby Baron, Baby Brit, and Fokker D.VII :)

I almost finished converting the Baby Baron plan to DXF for the local laser cutter last night - would be happy to share that file back for anyone else with access to a Techshop laser cutter or the like. I think I'll slice up enough foam for 3 or 4 of these and bring to FTFF in case someone wants to build on site and get into the action.

Thanks!
 

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SWEET!! I had "build 3 planes for FTFF" on my to-do list. Looks like that queue is all full now with Baby Baron, Baby Brit, and Fokker D.VII :)

I almost finished converting the Baby Baron plan to DXF for the local laser cutter last night - would be happy to share that file back for anyone else with access to a Techshop laser cutter or the like. I think I'll slice up enough foam for 3 or 4 of these and bring to FTFF in case someone wants to build on site and get into the action.

Thanks!

Awesome. I obviously cannot share the CAD files for the FT stuff, but for my own designs I can get you the native CAD (vector) geometry to make your laser cutting little easier. ;)

Send me a PM with your email address and i can send them to you.
 

rockyboy

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That thing looks very Italian! Do you know who flew it? I've been doing research on the people who flew all the planes on this thread if I can find them.

Maggiore Francesco Baracca - Spad S.VII (by Ivan Berryman)
Credited with an impressive 34 victories, Francesco Baracca was Italys highest scoring ace in WW1 and is shown here in his distinctive Spad S.VII which carried his personal emblem, the Prancing Horse, that paid homage to his cavalry days. Upon his death in this aircraft on 19th June 1918, Baraccas mother donated the emblem to Enzo Ferrari whose cars still carry this badge the world over.

http://www.military-art.com/mall/world-war-one-special-offer-aviation-print-packs.php


The German plane design that Rasterize did for me was flown by ace Lothar von Richtofen, the "Red Baron's" little brother.

An excerpt about him:

Lothar von Richthofen was a crazy man. While his brother Manfred was cold but aggresive perfectionist, Lothar used to engage with fury into dangerous dogfights. Considering this fact, it is a bit ironic that he lived longer than his brother and eventually survived the war. Nevertheless his victory list witnesses his style of life. His career consisted of three brief periods when he was scoring rapidly and long periods when he was recovering severe wounds.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2002/08/stuff_eng_profile_dr1.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_von_Richthofen

Digging into the history of these is fascinating!
 
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LooseBruce

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Maggiore Francesco Baracca - Spad S.VII
Ivan Berryman.

Credited with an impressive 34 victories, Francesco Baracca was Italys highest scoring ace in WW1 and is shown here in his distinctive Spad S.VII which carried his personal emblem, the Prancing Horse, that paid homage to his cavalry days. Upon his death in this aircraft on 19th June 1918, Baraccas mother donated the emblem to Enzo Ferrari whose cars still carry this badge the world over.

http://www.military-art.com/mall/world-war-one-special-offer-aviation-print-packs.php


The German plane design that Rasterize did for me was flown by ace Lothar von Richtofen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_von_Richthofen

Digging into the history of these is fascinating!

I just wanted to let you know I followed your art link and was fascinated by the art work of dog fights at the site. To have each painting documented was wonderful.
Thanks,
Bruce
 

willsonman

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Bravo on the history lesson! Thank you so much!

Maggiore Francesco Baracca - Spad S.VII
Ivan Berryman.

Credited with an impressive 34 victories, Francesco Baracca was Italys highest scoring ace in WW1 and is shown here in his distinctive Spad S.VII which carried his personal emblem, the Prancing Horse, that paid homage to his cavalry days. Upon his death in this aircraft on 19th June 1918, Baraccas mother donated the emblem to Enzo Ferrari whose cars still carry this badge the world over.

http://www.military-art.com/mall/world-war-one-special-offer-aviation-print-packs.php


The German plane design that Rasterize did for me was flown by ace Lothar von Richtofen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_von_Richthofen

Digging into the history of these is fascinating!
 

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Rasterize, if I could get in line on the allied side with this scheme I'd be very grateful.

I believe the tops of the wings are the same tan as the fuselage with roundels placed just like the bottom view.

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Thank you!

You bet! Funny thing is that I have a vector version of the Ferrari logo that I can use the horse from for this.
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A little more on the Prancing Horse Emblem

The famous symbol of Ferrari is a black prancing horse on yellow background, usually with the letters S F for Scuderia Ferrari.

The horse was originally the symbol of Count Francesco Baracca, a legendary “asso” (ace) of the Italian air force during World War I, who painted it on the fuselage of his planes. Baracca died very young on June 19, 1918, shot down on Mount Montello after 34 victorious duels and many team victories. He was the Italian ace of aces and he soon became a national hero. Baracca had wanted the prancing horse on his planes because his squad, the “Battaglione Aviatori”, was enrolled in a Cavalry regiment (air forces were at their first years of life and had no separate administration), and also because he himself was reputed to be the best cavaliere of his team. It has been supposed that the choice of a horse was perhaps partly due to the fact that his noble family was known for having plenty of horses in their estates at Lugo di Romagna.

Another theory suggests Baracca copied the rampant horse design from a shot down German pilot having the emblem of the city of Stuttgart on his plane. Interestingly, German sports car manufacturer Porsche, from Stuttgart, borrowed its prancing horse logo from the city`s emblem. Furthermore astonishing: Stuttgart is an over the centuries modified version of Stutengarten (an ancient german word for “Gestüt”, translated into English as mare garden or stud farm, into Italian as “scuderia”).

On June 17, 1923, Enzo Ferrari won a race at the Savio track in Ravenna, and there he met the Countess Paolina, mother of Baracca. The Countess suggested that he might use the horse on his cars, suggesting that it would grant him good luck, but it the first race at which Alfa would let him use the horse on Scuderia cars was eleven years later, at SPA 24 Hours in 1932. Ferrari won.

Ferrari left the horse black as it had been on Baracca’s plane; however, he added the canary yellow background because it was the symbolic color of his birthplace, Modena. The prancing horse has not always identified the Ferrari brand only: Fabio Taglioni used it on his Ducati motorbikes.

Taglioni’s father was in fact a companion of Baracca’s and fought with him in the 91st Air Squad, but as Ferrari’s fame grew, Ducati abandoned the horse; this may have been the result of a private agreement between the two brands. The prancing horse is now a trademark of Ferrari.
 
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rockyboy

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Very cool! Thanks for the research info on this!

I know Dan mentioned he was looking up some info on all of the color schemes that have been put in - it would be great to collect that up somewhere when we document the FT Dawn Patrol after FTFF for all the planes and pilots involved.
 

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I'd love to get in on this!

Baby Baron here I come.

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Is this enough to go off of? I keep finding the ones people already have up in the Side/Top view. I will bow to artistic license if needed (including pink poka dots).

Where can I find the post on the application method mentioned?
 

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Is this enough to go off of? I keep finding the ones people already have up in the Side/Top view. I will bow to artistic license if needed (including pink poka dots).

I try and keep as close to whatever color scheme you select. Sometimes I have to make a few "translations" based on the physical differences between aircraft. I would like a wing view if you can find it.

Where can I find the post on the application method mentioned?

I don't think we have one yet. :(
 

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There are also plans for a 1/12th semi-scale Fokker D.VII forthcoming. TEAJR66 is working on that design with me and he has already built the first prototype. Once I get the Baby Brit sorted, I will be helping him to finalize the design and hopefully have plans up in time for people to build them before Flite Fest.

Things are moving fast!

Along with the Fokker there is a Nieuport 17 in the works by TEARJ66 for me.
 

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More progress on the Baby Brit tonight. If I can get some cooperation from the weather (Friday and Saturday look promising), I should be able to maiden her this week. With any luck, plans will be posted this weekend.

Here are a couple of progress photos in the meantime.

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Baby Baron (right) and Baby Brit (left)

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Ready for power system and push rods
 

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Here is the paint scheme I'd like for my Brit Rasterize...

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Eddie Rickenbacker's SPAD XIII colors. :D