FinalGlideAus
terrorizing squirrels
Xiaomi Yi is Chinese for "out of focus". There a few of them in my group and they are all badly out of focus.
Blackout mini H quad build
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FinalGlideAus
terrorizing squirrels
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zenguerilla
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This video shows some better numbers with more specific settings for the SN-20A, but still clearly not equal to or greater than actual KISS esc or the apparent cooler temps it showed in the other video.
It appears rtfq also has some versions of SN-20A with blheli or simonk as well in addition to their 'hug' esc's whether that is of interest to anyone or not, given the common concern of delayed shipment, etc.
On this subject, I've noticed rctimer has some similar mini 30A and 40A, something they call superN mini and some other what might be called mini-high-performance esc's.
The size and weight, 'OneShot', performance, durability, etc. are the primary benefits I have interest in when looking at them, so the improvements are appreciated without being exactly equal to or better than actual flyduino kiss. But I still have at least a few extra heavier bulkier 30A regulars so not this minute, but at some point, it should be nice to pick up a set in comparison to the 30g jumbos I still have extra of for now.
It appears rtfq also has some versions of SN-20A with blheli or simonk as well in addition to their 'hug' esc's whether that is of interest to anyone or not, given the common concern of delayed shipment, etc.
On this subject, I've noticed rctimer has some similar mini 30A and 40A, something they call superN mini and some other what might be called mini-high-performance esc's.
The size and weight, 'OneShot', performance, durability, etc. are the primary benefits I have interest in when looking at them, so the improvements are appreciated without being exactly equal to or better than actual flyduino kiss. But I still have at least a few extra heavier bulkier 30A regulars so not this minute, but at some point, it should be nice to pick up a set in comparison to the 30g jumbos I still have extra of for now.
FinalGlideAus
terrorizing squirrels
Those SN20a do seem to be running nicely. There are a few who run them in my group and they are happy with them so far. I do notice that BLHeli generally seems to loose performance with damped light on and that's a bit annoying since its a given these days.
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do you think this will improve with time, and upgrade to the code/hardware as the guys learn more about MR..
i guess one question id be interested in on this ESC subject would have to be who was the first ESC to hit the market that was design for MR and not juts planes being used with MR.
any of them? or were they just sorta hacked together..
did SimonK come first or was it BLHeli.
do you know any history on this subject, since you have been kind of enough to let us on some of interesting historical facts in other posts. thank you for your time and contribution.. i know iv learn so much from you and others on this forum, willing to share. means a lot to noobs like my self that is for sure.
i have been book marking in my web browser every ESC that is said to be 1shot, and BLheli compatible that i can find and of course small has been a consideration too.. the list grows every day it seems.
chris.
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FinalGlideAus
terrorizing squirrels
Depends. Are you asking about FW or hardware? SimonK was the first multi rotor FW to come out but before the KISS esc's turned up the SimonK (and later on BLheli) FW were running on esc's designed for planes. KISS esc's changed that for ever and now we have clones like the SN20a and so forth.
I'm not sure about if BLheli will improve with the above problem. Part of the issue is hardware which is specific to each esc and part is FW. Felix has a few secret tricks which mostly are FW related which he is keeping very close to his chest and I'm not surprised since he's put so much time and effort into the FW. Fact is that no esc has the same braking, smooth running with no sync issues and power output of the KISS esc. Until someone else works out the secret ingredient then it won't change.
I'm not sure about if BLheli will improve with the above problem. Part of the issue is hardware which is specific to each esc and part is FW. Felix has a few secret tricks which mostly are FW related which he is keeping very close to his chest and I'm not surprised since he's put so much time and effort into the FW. Fact is that no esc has the same braking, smooth running with no sync issues and power output of the KISS esc. Until someone else works out the secret ingredient then it won't change.
thanks chad.. i meant overall so i guess that would translate to FW/HW. yeah i do not blame Mr Felix one bit to keep his special sauce, in a red file locked way. rock on.
chris.
narcolepticltd
I unbuild stuff regularly
whatever that special sauce is, they perform leaps and bounds better than anything else. those rotorgeeks 12a ESCs are awesome ESCS and are bullet proof, but can't compete with KISS (the KISS 18a don't even get warm running the same config as my 12a RGs, and the difference in response is immediately apparent swapping from one to the other).
not much difference in price either between the two.. i think 18a kiss are 14.99.
but in all fairness id hope 18a would stay cooler than 12a yeah?
chris.
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FinalGlideAus
terrorizing squirrels
There is about a 25degtempdifference between the KISS 18a and SN20a on the same setup and theSN20a is about as good as a BLHeli gets. My KISS 30a doesn't even go above about 40deg total even after being thrashed on 6s with about 40a current draw.
C0d3M0nk3y
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I got a couple of nano-tech 4S 1800s this week.
narcolepticltd
I unbuild stuff regularly
narcolepticltd
I unbuild stuff regularly
These are 4s, so a lot heavier in comparison to a 3s battery. If you'll look at the data they do actually list the weight along with the dimensions for all of these batteries though... best way to compare.
C0d3M0nk3y
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Sure. Here it is next to a Lumenier 4S 1800 mAh 75C and a Lumenier 4S 1300 mAh 60C. Like narco said, these weigh quite a bit more than 3S batteries.
wow, 4s is much bigger than i was originally thinking. thank you for posting the pictures.. i was thinking these were 3s did not even think 4s yet you clearly posted such.. im blind some days.. selective reading? i dunno.. im boarding the u.s.s fail-boat on reading comprehension today.. one thing text can not do.. paint a picture the size difference.. sure you can see it in text but when you post pictures like that.. wow.. id be afraid to run such battery's at this point. LOL.
unfortunately no 3s 1300 in the 45-90C range so i will not buy battery's this month.
chris.
unfortunately no 3s 1300 in the 45-90C range so i will not buy battery's this month.
chris.
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ExperimentalRC
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These batteries sell out so often that I think I'm going to end up buying 6s batteries and pulling them apart to make 2 3s batteries. There is a 1550mah 6s 65-130c battery I've been looking at, but I was wondering if pulling the 6s apart will half the c rating or will it stay the same?
C0d3M0nk3y
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I had one of FGA's GoPro protectors printed at Shapeways.
It weighs 11 g.
Here's what it looks like after I added some bright tape to it and mounted the camera with it on the quad:
It weighs 11 g.
Here's what it looks like after I added some bright tape to it and mounted the camera with it on the quad:
narcolepticltd
I unbuild stuff regularly
It's finally surfaced and available to the public! Awesome! I'm going to have one printed as well... definitely want to see how it works out in different applications (where it may, Flinch). Also looks like it should still fit on a vortex recliner (unless it's covering up the port for the power adapter)
