F18 with twin EDF/BDF Options

Mid7night

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Both of Overstreet's F-16 and F-18 have ailerons and elevators, and the elevators are hinged, not all-moving.

My F-16 has large hinged elevons (not tailerons), and no ailerons.

My latest F-18 is designed to have all-moving tailerons. There is also room for ailerons, but they're not in the plans.
 

BoredGuy

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Both of Overstreet's F-16 and F-18 have ailerons and elevators, and the elevators are hinged, not all-moving.

My F-16 has large hinged elevons (not tailerons), and no ailerons.

My latest F-18 is designed to have all-moving tailerons. There is also room for ailerons, but they're not in the plans.
Thanks for clarifying that. Looking at the pics, the control surfaces on the horizontal stabilizer seem so large that they look like they might rip off during hard maneuvering. Also, I read somewhere here that the BDFs use gremlin 1806 motors. I'm guessing that these would provide around 500-600g of thrust, wouldn't that be too little for a plane of this size?
 

The Hangar

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Thanks for clarifying that. Looking at the pics, the control surfaces on the horizontal stabilizer seem so large that they look like they might rip off during hard maneuvering. Also, I read somewhere here that the BDFs use gremlin 1806 motors. I'm guessing that these would provide around 500-600g of thrust, wouldn't that be too little for a plane of this size?
I think they use 2206 motors or something along that line.
 

Mid7night

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Thanks for clarifying that. Looking at the pics, the control surfaces on the horizontal stabilizer seem so large that they look like they might rip off during hard maneuvering. Also, I read somewhere here that the BDFs use gremlin 1806 motors. I'm guessing that these would provide around 500-600g of thrust, wouldn't that be too little for a plane of this size?

The 2” BDFs that I used on my 7ft B-52 used 1806 motors, they made around 120g thrust each.

The 4” BDFs I used on my 14ft B-52, the same size John uses on his F-16 and F-18 (twin), are powered by 22xx size quad motors. My BUFF used FT Radial 2207-1650 motors on 6S and made approximately 900g thrust each. John has been testing out larger 2212 motors I believe, and different Kv values on 4S and 6S. I don’t know what his performance numbers are, but they will be at least as good or better than my Monster B-52.
 

BoredGuy

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The 4” BDFs I used on my 14ft B-52, the same size John uses on his F-16 and F-18 (twin), are powered by 22xx size quad motors. My BUFF used FT Radial 2207-1650 motors on 6S and made approximately 900g thrust each. John has been testing out larger 2212 motors I believe, and different Kv values on 4S and 6S. I don’t know what his performance numbers are, but they will be at least as good or better than my Monster B-52.
That's an insane amount of thrust. I've been googling some motors up, and if it's possible to wedge an emax RS2205 2300kv with a 5 inch prop, that would be cool. According to this guy, this motor on a 5045 triblade prop makes over 1100g of thrust, with less than 30a current. To add icing on the cake, 4 of them with escs are less than $40 on aliexpress.
 
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BoredGuy

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Just checked more emax motors. Not to get repetitive, but the 2600 kv rs2205 can pull nearly 1.1 kg on a 4x4.5x3 prop, as compared to a 5inch prop on the 2300 kv version. I think that should fit
 

speedy7385

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5" BDF vs 4" BDF in size. 2x4" BDF on the A-10, will maiden soon.
 

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speedy7385

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Used 6s on both. 4s cut both output in half. not enough rpm to generate ax output. The 5in BDF on 4s output was 700g thrust and draw 15A max throttle.