FT Bronco VTOL

LitterBug

Techno Nut
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would you say there are any makor downsides for this configuration (specifically for a vtol of course) in realtion to a quadcopter? I amgoing to be designing my next vtol soon,a nd am trying to decide if the extra dead weight of a quad motor is worth it (The front two will tilt forward anyways). I built a quad jsut for fun and it flies much smoother than my tricopter boomin flerken vtol, but I think that can be attributed to the flerkens larger weight and surface area.
it comes down to balance vs complexity, dead weight, and added drag. There is no perfect solution.

I am leaning tword doing a twin motor flying wing tailsitter. Should be the simplest setup possible with the least extra weight/drag.
 

tomlogan1

Elite member
New flight controller ordered and in transit. 4s motors arrived today. Also working on a potential air frame change, something that would weigh less than the Bronco. If that works out, the Bronco is still a great plane for normal forward flight and I will keep the lower kv motors with the 10 inch props so I will have lost nothing.
 

LitterBug

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So I am going to cheat and got a complete ZoHD Altus VTOL kit sans Flight Controller. Anything I learn on the FC "should" be applicable to any other tri-motor setup. Will be using a Matek FC that can do ArduPilot and INAV, and will start down the ardupilot path once built. I will create my own thread for documentation purposes, because this type of setup needs good examples and learning experiences shared.


EDIT Note: Requires assembly. Flight Controller, Receiver, Battery, and FPV Gear are NOT included
 
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AIRFORGE

Make It Fly!
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So I am going to cheat and got a complete ZoHD Altus VTOL kit sans Flight Controller. Anything I learn on the FC "should" be applicable to any other tri-motor setup. Will be using a Matek FC that can do ArduPilot and INAV, and will start down the ardupilot path once built. I will create my own thread for documentation purposes, because this type of setup needs good examples and learning experiences shared.
Mucho like-o! Which Matek?
 

tomlogan1

Elite member
Not wanting to hijack Litterbug's thread, here is the flight controller (just arrived). Heewing xf-405. Only soldering is for the battery & ESC connections.. Everything else is installed and Ardupilot is pre cooked. Will continue to post as the saga continues.....
 

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tomlogan1

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@tomlogan1 hope you get your soldering figured out. The Speedybee FC should take care of stabilizing hovering. When I’m in angle mode it’s very stable. I did purchase smaller drone motors that can run on 4s. Hoping the lower weight motors offset the heavier 4s lipos.
Haven't forgotten all the help & encouragement you provided. You are directly connected to any success I may have in this project.

Moved to a new thread here:

 

tomlogan1

Elite member
Vacating LitterBug's thread. All is not well in Heewing land. The flight controller refuses to connect to Mission Planner and thus I cannot configure all the settings needed. Heewing support, while at first seemed responsive and decided to ignore my emails. I have complied with all of their requests to send videos etc. but have no working flight controller. Plan B is now being deployed. We will dig out the Speedy Bee flight controller and warm up the soldering iron.

We are supposed to get anywhere from 6 - 12 inches of snow and temperatures from the low single digits to the negative range so no flying for a while.

The saga continues....
 

LitterBug

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Vacating LitterBug's thread. All is not well in Heewing land. The flight controller refuses to connect to Mission Planner and thus I cannot configure all the settings needed. Heewing support, while at first seemed responsive and decided to ignore my emails. I have complied with all of their requests to send videos etc. but have no working flight controller. Plan B is now being deployed. We will dig out the Speedy Bee flight controller and warm up the soldering iron.

We are supposed to get anywhere from 6 - 12 inches of snow and temperatures from the low single digits to the negative range so no flying for a while.

The saga continues....
Supposed to get 8"- 12" here. Debating running Over to buddyRC today for replacement motors..... Or configure with the stock motors....
 

Houndpup Rc

Legendary member
Supposed to get 8"- 12" here. Debating running Over to buddyRC today for replacement motors..... Or configure with the stock motors....
Vacating LitterBug's thread. All is not well in Heewing land. The flight controller refuses to connect to Mission Planner and thus I cannot configure all the settings needed. Heewing support, while at first seemed responsive and decided to ignore my emails. I have complied with all of their requests to send videos etc. but have no working flight controller. Plan B is now being deployed. We will dig out the Speedy Bee flight controller and warm up the soldering iron.

We are supposed to get anywhere from 6 - 12 inches of snow and temperatures from the low single digits to the negative range so no flying for a while.

The saga continues....
Yeah, we are going to miss the bulk of the snow fall...We just have crazy cold temps!😆😆 (1℉ right now in full sun and feels like -21℉🥶)
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
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Supposed to get 8"- 12" here. Debating running Over to buddyRC today for replacement motors..... Or configure with the stock motors....
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Mmmmm.... NEW "old stock"

HECK of a good deal for $90. 4 motors AND individual ESCs, 2CW 2CCW. Picked up the last set. Perfect for those who need independent ESCs with no BEC. VERY hard to find any more. So upgrading from 2204-1850KV to 2306 2300KV. Proprietary 30A PWM only ESCs with BECs to 30A Blheli_S ESCs that can run just about any protocol and no BEC. Have an FC with BECs so no need for them on the ESCs.
 
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tomlogan1

Elite member
@tomlogan1 hope you get your soldering figured out. The Speedybee FC should take care of stabilizing hovering. When I’m in angle mode it’s very stable. I did purchase smaller drone motors that can run on 4s. Hoping the lower weight motors offset the heavier 4s lipos.
Moved out of Litterbug's thread. Was wrong to ride on his train.
 

tomlogan1

Elite member
After numerous emails/video transmissions with Heewing, they have agreed to repair or replace the controller. The 12 hour difference between the US & China really complicates effective communication and response time. I'm hoping Heewing resolve this quickly but I am not confident after my experiences with them. Granted, they did catch the missing 5 volt connection, but the number of emails wherein I pointed out that Mission Planner could not connect, how I had removed Mission Planner and ALL the drivers rebooted and reinstalled only to have the same results that it is hardware NOT software causing this issue. I do have a Speedy Bee on the bench in the event that Heewing lets me down.