FT Racer Will Not Take Off

Hello all, after flying my Delta Ray for 10 months now I have felt a need to try a new aircraft. I have been building an FT Racer with minimum modifications to reduce weight. At first I had only added a removable wing so it would fit into my car. I tried hand launching it but I broke a prop. Next I turned it into a tail dragger. When I gave it power it just nosed over and I nicked another prop. Deciding to turn it into a trike I moved the main gears back (based on Flying Penguin RC's design) and added a third gear to the power pod (also based off of FPRC's design). In short the trike gear didn't help either.

As far as my power system I am using a Suppo 2208/14 with an APC 8 x 4E. I am running it off of a Towerpro 30A ESC and a 3s 2200 LiPo. Any help would be great,

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jayz 84

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Thats a far under powered motor for that plane its only recommend up to 500grams plane and the full built racer with a 2200 is going to put you around 800+grams. Pretty sure your going to need a larger motor look for a good 250watt+ motor to get you started
 

AkimboGlueGuns

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Definitely switch to a larger motor. I would suggest an NTM 2830 1200kv. You should be able to fly it quite well with an 8/6 prop.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, I will definitely start looking for a new motor. In the meantime is there an FT plane that my Suppo motor will power? Thanks,

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AkimboGlueGuns

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It will fly the versa wing just fine, It might be able to get the duster off. The first three swappables will fly just fine off of that motor.
 

jayz 84

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Thanks for the advice guys, I will definitely start looking for a new motor. In the meantime is there an FT plane that my Suppo motor will power? Thanks,

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Well i have a idea for you but will only work if you have some 1000 to 1300mah 3s batterys you can scale the racer down to a 80% then giving you a 32in ws. Itll be light enough for your set up there easy to fly and stick in any car without removable wing. Just a idea for you
 
I really like the idea, especially as a small pylon style park flyer. I truly do want to get into the air quickly though (say about a week or two). Would my power setup work on an FT-22? Also do you think I would be at that skill level? I have been flying the Delta Ray on Expert Mode for about 4 months now. Thanks again for the tips guys!

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Flynn

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That motor worked on my spitfire with an 8x6 prop. Definitely use a park 400 or 425 for some crazy vertical on the FT racer. I can't comment on the FT22 I built 2 and they both had the same bad results.
 

ruud

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My FT-22 flew fine with the 2208/14 with an 8x4 prop, although I used a 1000 mAh 3S battery rather than 2200 mAh. (I now use a 7x6 prop, though)
 
Thanks again for the help guys. I'm surfing Hobby King right now. Would you guys recommend the NTM Prop Drive Series 28-26A 1200kv / 286w or the NTM Prop Drive Series 28-30 1200kv / 400w? Also is the APC Style Propeller 8x4R (Right Hand Rotation - 2pc) a pusher prop basically? Thanks,

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AkimboGlueGuns

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I would recommend the 28-30 1200kv. You should get 8x6 props. An 8x4 will be overspun by the motor and will give you less thrust. The 28-30 will give some more punch than the 28-26 and will work with all of the flite test planes. Go with normal (left hand) rotation props.