FT Scout XL : Flite Fest 2022 Dawn Patrol Challenge

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One slight change from the Simple Scout to the Simple Scout XL is the addition of the plywood/printed main gear support plate sandwiched in between the foam main gear tab. Construction for the gear is identical to the FT Tutor, so you can watch that portion of the build video for that.

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dap35

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One slight change from the Simple Scout to the Simple Scout XL is the addition of the plywood/printed main gear support plate sandwiched in between the foam main gear tab. Construction for the gear is identical to the FT Tutor, so you can watch that portion of the build video for that.

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I did a riff on this landing gear design for my Simple Stick to solve a couple of challenges. First, any vertical load wanted to drive the gear up in the fuse, and second, they wanted to squat out. So I added a base plate to spread the load and also added in some small diagonal wires to keep the gear from squatting.
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tomlogan1

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What are the options on making the wing removeable? For those who don't drive a larger vehicle or have access to a trailer size matters!
 

SP0NZ

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What are the options on making the wing removeable? For those who don't drive a larger vehicle or have access to a trailer size matters!
Not going to attempt to design in any feature for a removable wing at this point. I'm sure folks who want to work that out can come up with something and will gladly share that info here.

For my Scout XL that I will bring to Flite Fest, I will likely build it up to the point of wing install and then jest do the final assembly on site. Should be much easier to transport that way. I doubt mine will make it back home in one piece. ;)
 

tomlogan1

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Not going to attempt to design in any feature for a removable wing at this point. I'm sure folks who want to work that out can come up with something and will gladly share that info here.

For my Scout XL that I will bring to Flite Fest, I will likely build it up to the point of wing install and then jest do the final assembly on site. Should be much easier to transport that way. I doubt mine will make it back home in one piece. ;)
I guess depending upon where you put the receiver you could have the aileron Y connector on the top of the wing with a "door" to be closed when you insert the wing and then "open" to connect to the receiver.
 

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Not going to attempt to design in any feature for a removable wing at this point. I'm sure folks who want to work that out can come up with something and will gladly share that info here.

For my Scout XL that I will bring to Flite Fest, I will likely build it up to the point of wing install and then jest do the final assembly on site. Should be much easier to transport that way. I doubt mine will make it back home in one piece. ;)


Sponz can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the wing is assembled and then slid into place in the fuse and glued in, and then control horns and pushrods are added.

I do wonder if small reinforcement plates could be added fore and aft on the wing and matching plates added to the upper and lower surfaces of the fuse. Then a BBQ skewer could be used to "lock" the wing into alignment with tape top and bottom keeping it from working loose. A bit of tape could also be used on each side where the wing meets the fuse for more piece of mind. It might not be a great LONG term solution, but with long enough servo extension wires I wager you could disconnect the pushrod from one aileron, carefully slide the wing into the slot in the fuse (might need a small relief cut for the control horn. servo horn should probably be able to be pushed almost flat). Then you hook up the servos, reattach the pushrod, and slide the wing the rest of the way on, using the reinforcement plates and skewer to lock the wing in.

That would spare you having to make pull-apart wings and would almost certainly be strong enough. IDK though... I always overcomplicate things :)
 

Mr.Grinch

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I was thinking of a way to make the wing removable that MAY be convenient and secure. The area over the wing could be cut away and re-mounted via forward tabs and rear magnets or skewers. Use internal structure/hard points under the wing that can be used to rubber band the wing into place and not put excessive upward pressure on the hatch. I might try cutting out a regular scout first to try this method when I get some time.
 

tomlogan1

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FT Scout XL

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With permission from Flite Test, and the blessing of @wilmracer (Carl Lydick) and @willsonman (Joshua Orchard), I am scaling up the FT Simple Scout to a scale that should make it fit quite nicely into the 1:6th scale for the Flite Fest 2022 Dawn Patrol. I know that the Simple Scout is a fictional aircraft, but the point of this challenge is to include as many folks who want to fly in the Dawn Patrol as possible. For the Gotha Gaggle at Flite Fest 2016 we had 32 planes flying together. I'd like to see even more for the Flite Fest 2022 Dawn Patrol. To that point, the Scout XL is meant to be a easier point of entry to join in on the fun. Not everyone is up to the challenge of scratch building from balsa plans. Maybe you do not have that kind of time. With the Scout XL you can build a plane that looks the part or a WWI fighter, but with the ease you have known and come to love with building a Flite Test design. In fact, you can use the FT Simple Scout build video to build the Scout XL with very little deviation.

More Info on the FF'22 Dawn Patrol here:
https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/flite-fest-2022-community-challenge-–-wwi-“dawn-patrol”.69196/

The Scout XL has a wingspan of 58 inches and is approximately 155% scale of the FT Simple Scout. This size was chosen to fit the 1:6th scale requirement of other similar size WWI planes of the era, and also to accommodate the 20 x 30 inch foam board build medium.

The power requirements I am shooting for for the Scout XL are the Flite Test 2814-100 kv motor and 40 amp ESC (links below).

Motor: https://store.flitetest.com/ft-2814-1100kv-motor/
ESC: https://store.flitetest.com/40-amp-esc/

The plans are roughly 80% complete. I expect to have them released on or before February 20. @Mid7night (Ben Harber) has already built a beta version and should have a test flight in soon. I expect to start my build next week and @willsonman (Joshua Orchard) should be building a beta version as well. I will provide additional details in this thread as the build progresses.
Will the plans be available in full size? Found a printer who is reasonably priced.
 

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The plans are already available?? Isn't this just a rescaled aircraft that ALREADY exists??

There is a lot more work involved than just scaling up/down the plans to make a buildable model. The thickness of the the building material doesn't scale and needs to be accounted for. There are also some minor design tweaks that I made based off some newer FT models.