FoamyDM

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FTFC21 Build-ruary by FoamyDM (Build Skill: 4 Skilled, Pilot SKill: 3 comfortable )

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  1. AeroCar by FoamyDM (new scratch build)
  2. F-22 (50mm 3EDF) by Grifflyer
  3. HRC WASP by The Hangar RC
  4. HRC T-6 Texan by The Hangar RC
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It is possible two of these planes may not be ready in time.

Alternate 1: FT MS P-38
Alternate 2: FT MS Corsair
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This should be a good year!

-FoamyDM
 

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FoamyDM

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Reserved for build 1: the flying Car
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History:
Ever e before the first controlled Flight had occurred, Jules Verne introduced the idea in his 1904 Master of the World novel, people have been looking to combine the two. Then Ford made automobiles affordable to the common man, a "best of both worlds" seemed withing reach. In 1940, Henry Ford predicted the flying car was mere moments away. and in 1946 - the idea was proven.
since then many have tried a number of succeeded.
in 1949 the Taylor Aerocar was one of those successes with a successful flight in December 1949.

according to WIKIpedia, only 6 AeroCars were ever made.

The version I will make is modeled after this model:
N101D

1954 Taylor Aerocar Serial Number 3 registered as N101D
N101D (1954) is owned by Greg Herrick's Yellowstone Aviation Inc.[2][4][5] It is maintained in flying condition and is on display at the Golden Wings Flying Museum located on the south west side of the Anoka County-Blaine Airport in Minneapolis. This aircraft is featured flying overhead on the cover on the book "A Drive In the Clouds" by Jake Schultz. In December 2011, N101D was being offered for sale at an asking price of USD1.25 million.[6]

I may however Paint it up with the scheme Detailed below.
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From 1961-1963 the Aerocar was operated under contract between Star Stations (Don Burden) and Wik's Air Service, Inc. It was used as a traffic-watch (AIRWATCH) aircraft for KISN (910AM) radio station in Portland, Oregon where it was flown by "Scotty Wright" (Scotty Wright was the alias used by the acting pilot of the Aerocar during traffic-watch transmissions). Several pilots provided the AIRWATCH service beginning with World War II veteran pilot Guilford Wikander, President of Wik's Air Service, Inc. Guilford was followed in order by his sister Ruth Wikander, W. John Jacob III, Wayne Nutsch[10] and Alan Maris. Scotty Wright reports Nutsch having 350 flying hours in N103D performing AIRWATCH duty. Traffic reporting was from 7:00 AM–8:30 AM and 4:30 PM–6:00 PM. During the Aerocar's AIRWATCH missions, it was painted white with red hearts[11] and had the letters KISN on the top and bottom of the wings.[12]
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The aircraft was equipped with an emergency police/fire receiver for use in reporting emergency events on KISN radio stations broadcast. When flown for KISN it was based at Wik's Air Service, Hillsboro Airport (HIO), Hillsboro Oregon. On one of its more eventful flights for KISN it survived the Columbus Day Storm of 1962 without damage after its evening traffic reporting flight. Ruth Wikander was piloting the aircraft at that particular time and is credited with the successful landing during extreme wind conditions (perhaps more than 100 mph). Ruth Wikander was an active member of the 99's, the International Organization of Women Pilots. In 1962 Ruth Wikander drove the Aerocar as an automobile while trailering the wings in the annual Portland Rose Festival parade. The Aerocar was an integral part of KISN Radio and can be seen at stumptownblogger.com[13] along with photos of famous rock musicians and KISN DJ's of the times​
a billboard from the station promotions​
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Who else is doing trying to build and market a flying car?- Many over the years.
http://carplane.com/ or https://www.aeromobil.com/ or https://terrafugia.com/ are some companies with current working prototype among many others.


Flying Car Sources:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/how-to/g1038/a-brief-history-of-the-flying-car/
https://techcrunch.com/2016/12/23/our-self-flying-car-future/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1954-TAYLOR-AEROCAR-236076
Here is a whole dissertation on the flying car and it's attempts and evolution.
https://pdhonline.com/courses/m567/m567handout.pdf
Specifications
  • Crew: one
  • Capacity: 1 passenger
  • Length: 21 ft 6 in (6.55 m)
  • Wingspan: 34 ft 0 in (10.36 m)
  • Height: 7 ft 6 in (2.29 m)
  • Wing area: 190 sq ft (18 m2)
  • Empty weight: 1,500 lb (680 kg)
  • Gross weight: 2,100 lb (953 kg)
  • Fuel capacity: 23.5 gallons
  • Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming O-320 air-cooled flat-four, 143 hp (107 kW)
  • Propellers: 2-bladed Hartzell HA12 UF, 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) diameter
Performance
  • Maximum speed: 117 mph (188 km/h, 102 kn)
  • Cruise speed: 97 mph (156 km/h, 84 kn)
  • Stall speed: 50 mph (80 km/h, 43 kn)
  • Range: 300 mi (480 km, 260 nmi)
  • Service ceiling: 12,000 ft (3,700 m)
  • Rate of climb: 610 ft/min (3.1 m/s)
Model Specs
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Wingspan: 48"​
Length: 30"​
Height: 10"​
Motor: 2206 2300kv motor​
ESC: 20A with BEC​
Propellar: 5x4.5x5 prop.​
Battery: 2-2200 mah 3S​
Servos: 4 - 9g with 2 y-connector​
Push rods: 0.030" MIG welding wire​

Plans:
These prototype plans are based on the ones put together by Fiddler's Green paper models. I took very small versions of the image to make a rough CAD drawing and projected them onto the foam board trace the image and cut it out.
V1
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If you want to build this and use the plans HERE (Alpha Plans*),
*There is a great deal of Trimming and fitting that went into turning this car into the RC model detailed here. V2 Beta Plans are already in the works.
If you want the Operation Air Watch look, you can use these Decal Printouts for Decoration

Based on what I learned from putting this together, is that this can be done far simpler. I am Happy with this wings.
V2
(Coming Soon)
Build:
I then started folding the models together and seeing how they came together as paper molds differently than foam board.
2/4-2/6
No it's not a helmet, this is the coop top:
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Then I focused on the empanage which is where the tricky business happens.
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You can see that the tail sits up in an angle and the elevators look somewhat tilted as well as you can see the v brace that I put in on the underside of the elevator.
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I then devised something thick enough to fit in the rudder itself
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Mount the core:
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Then put the runner on pushing it flush with the empanage
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Now to add wheels, and figure out how to mount the motor, and wings.

2/16
Figured that an F-pack motor can slide of the tail with some slit adjustment. This makes it tail heavy, but sturdy and 🔏 be with the proper thrust angle (according to the drawings.) Having the motor the tail heavy. But I found 2-2200 3S puts the balance at the spar of the wing.
2/17
Put in some servos. Installed the servo horns ready. Last step is the wires. The wheel hubs are looser and roll Better
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Still to do:
1. Push rod,
2. battery selection
3. Wing struts and tie downs
4. Color
2/18
Added pushrods and finished the electronics, added battery and made a model in the transmitter wing struts aren't needed by aren't a bad idea. Color after the maiden.
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I taxi tested around the. Foyer. Very little rudder control on the ground.
2/19
Time for a maiden flight test. Is this worth pursuing?:

3 things before we start. It was windy. It has been raining for weeks. Rudder effect is iffy
She flew! But not long enough to see how well before the motor stopped. End result - 4 pieces.
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Takeaways:
I need a V2.
in the short time I had with her in the air, it was a good flyer, I was trying to trim the elevator to Neutral when the motor and power stopped. No much to do then. It is repairable though.
But Wait...
It isn't over, as I have put it back together:
as I know it will fly... I will give it a minute to start making it pretty.
2/25-26
I spend some time this evening putting together decals and giving it some color and personality. I've chosen to mesh the Pixar planes depiction of the arrow car, and the historical personality of the radio station traffic vehicle.
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Maiden Flight Success:
 

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FoamyDM

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Reserved for build 2: F-22 design by @Grifflyer (aka Nate)
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History:
I've enjoyed watching thee-flat version of this craft flying acros my field is people are doing high alpha and other crazy maneuvers and thought I bet you we could make this out of foam board. Then I look around and find grifflyer's picture perfect version of it that flies like a dream just like the e-flight model, or even better as it's told.
after ordering a 50 mm EDF just to tackle some of the other great planes that are available. This one came to the top.

Model Specs:

Span 44 feet 6 inches
Length 62 feet 1 inches
Power 1-50mm edf with 40A Esc

Plane Specs:
  • F-22 Raptor
First flight (YF-22 prototype) Sept. 29, 1990; (F-22 Raptor) Sept. 7, 1997
Classification Fighter
Span 44 feet 6 inches
Length 62 feet 1 inches
Speed Mach 2
Power Two Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engines
Accommodation One crewperson
Armament Air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles

PLANS:
I used these plans at the bottom of the linked post to build this model.
Build Log:

2/3
This past week I projected the plans onto the wall with the foam board and traced it out.
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2/6
After the buildery build party I was able to cut out this much:
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By later that night I have this pile. One sheet left.
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2/7
The pile grows. All the parts are cut out. :D I hope I didn't accidentally toss one during clean up. :confused:
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2/19-2/20
Worked on this during build night and into the next morning I got some serious progress and some funky fit I'll keep plugging along but I may need to re-cut this one.
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2/21-2/22
The plane is starting to look really good I see some misalignments and some twists and I'm not liking that part but even with that there's a lot of this plane that looks great and it's possible it'll still fly okay I'm going to press on it just said the last two nose pieces and the fins and to run the control wires. it should be ready for maiden soon.
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2/25-2/26
I finished putting this plane together got the electronics installed had to add two small extensions to the servos and switch the wires for the motor cuz I didn't test it before I put it in it is too heavy with a 1500 ml amp three cell but just barely I might start flying that way but I'll see if I can find a lighter battery. I have it set up in the controller, and I'm ready to fly whenever the weather suits. I'm excited to see how this flies because it looks so good!
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Got a moment to paint it:
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Maiden Flight:

Take away:
From my Feb 27th post here:
[qoute]The F-22 needs speed to launch like most EDFs. But it was FUN. And responded well. I was doubtful at first that the controls would be enough. It hit ground effect which kept it up. Even twisted a bit from my const methods. It was responsive and fun.[/quote]
 
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FoamyDM

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Build 4: FoamyDM V-Sel - a DTFB Weasel knock off design by me.
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The original TREK Weasel.
2/25
Here is my progress so far:
I designed the plane a LONG while ago. But had never tried to build it. So not time like the present. I once again leaned on the projection method.
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From there, the cutting methods are pretty similar.
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The only big difference that I ironed the trailing edges as per the plans. This came together quite well easily. Unfortunately the wings didn't match up. But that is easy to fix. IMG_20210226_015511751.jpg
Keeping the paper on the trailing edge of the main wing and where the spar lays. This lends better glue adhesion and strength. After gashing a finger with a poorly located punky, I ended here: electronics in and parts ready, but the fuse separated. Simple to fix when a come back on Sunday.
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2/28
Finally back at it! Right at the bell shortly before midnight. I finish up the fuse (cutting the wing slot past the end) and add a 3.7 450mah battery and a receiver. I also added 16.5 g to the nose (2-nickels and 3 pennies? and keep it in place with a paper towel. Then it is time to give her a glide test.
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The pictures are after the maiden as I get it ready to try again tomorrow. I added tape of color and clear.
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Weight:

(from later post in this thread)
AUW for the V-sel 177g.
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Breaks down like this.
105g in foam
18g 2-9g servos.
15g nose weight.
6g receiver.
13g battery 450g 1S
5g landscaping wire pushrod + control horns
15g hot glue

Maiden flight:
1st attempt you will see went in a stiff arc, into the ground nose first. Yikes!
Ok let me adjust some things... more reflex shift the weight...
A few days later in the day light:
as you can see, this needs about 4° of reflex to fly well.

Take-away
  • This was a simple easy to build take-anywhere plane that has very little to it.
  • the 450mah battery last as long as your throwing arm.
  • It is important that the control surface throws be small.
  • This has a Very low Wing Loading, and appears to be very affected by the wind.
Plans:
I have attached the plans
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OliverW

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FTFC21 Build-ruary by FoamyDM (Build Skill: 4 Skilled, Pilot SKill: 3 comfortable )

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  1. HRC WASP by The Hangar RC
  2. HRC T-6 Texan by The Hangar RC
  3. AeroCar by FoamyDM (new scratch build)
  4. F-22 (50mm 3EDF) by Grifflyer
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It is possible two of these planes may not be ready in time.

Alternate 1: FT MS P-38
Alternate 2: FT MS Corsair
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This should be a good year!

-FoamyDM
Love the aero car. I have a couple pictures of one I saw in seattle
 

OliverW

Legendary member
Post them if you can real life photos are even better, as you may have a shot different to those in the search results.
I can only find one of the head on shot that I posted on the aviation rc noob discord awhile back
 

FoamyDM

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In the Discord? ok, I will see what I can find, if I do, I will re-post here too.
 

FoamyDM

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You Amaze me Matt. where do you pull all the build time from and second how many self storage units do you rent now to store all these builds you do. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Let's just say, My guests are running out of Room to stay. Time... I have no idea... sleep or coffee and planes.... sleep or coffee and planes... sleep.
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Did you cut the F-22 by hand?
Sadly, Yes... but... Look at it - should be worth it.
 

Michael9865

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Let's just say, My guests are running out of Room to stay. Time... I have no idea... sleep or coffee and planes.... sleep or coffee and planes... sleep.
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Sadly, Yes... but... Look at it - should be worth it.

Love the Caffeine Powers Activate picture. Stealing and posting to my Facebook.
If your guests don’t like sharing with your airplanes, that’s on them. LOL!
 

FoamyDM

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I was going to make f-22 progress or mount a motor, but I had a thing to finish for cub scout STEM night. 15 Hotliners style one-sheet gliders
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Left is plans, right is trash.
 
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Scotto

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Awesome. I just found out they make spiral blades that cut in any direction, but I cant find them with pinned ends.
 

JasonK

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@FoamyDM - can we change one of our planed craft? that twin stol challenge looks more interesting then building another trainer.