How are you storing your batteries? I need some peace of mind...

Houndpup Rc

Legendary member
They're starting to show up now: https://www.amazon.com/lithium-car-battery/s?k=lithium+car+battery
The UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) vendors have been pushing Li-Ion as a replacement for Sealed Lead Acid batteries for a little while now. I think it won't be long before lead acid is phased out. I have to replace my car batteries every 3 years here in TX. The heat is hard on them. The UPS vendors warranty Li-Ion for 5 years compared to 3 years on the SLA batteries.
Yeah, I was wondering yesterday if they do...But I mean the ones we can afford...At least most of us! 😂 😂 😂
 

Piotrsko

Legendary member
Fellow Volt owner! I initially leased a 2013 from 2012-2014. I like it enough that I bought a 2014 in 2014. Going on 11 years in it now. Absolutely a fantastic car! My only repair so far (besides consumables) was a wheel bearing. Still gets great range. I estimate about 10% reduction, but it’s really difficult to tell because I switched to non-low rolling resistance tires and my commute changed from ~30mph the whole way to about 70mph. I now get about 36-38 miles of range. Not bad for a car that was rated at 38 miles when new!
Volt pack is in a Ranger conversion with a 1,000 amp controller. Had a efi random failure series, son said it would never legally drive again. He was wrong. When I converted, 2011 packs were practically given away for <$500, junk yards didn't know how to deal with them, they just knew batteries were deadly.
 

Santa Cruz

Active member
The thing i don't like about them, is they can just short out. Does it happen often, not that i am aware of, but yes they have. Even a tap or drop can short them out.

For me i continue to use NIMH.
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
Moderator
The thing i don't like about them, is they can just short out. Does it happen often, not that i am aware of, but yes they have. Even a tap or drop can short them out.

For me i continue to use NIMH.
I have not had any issues with LiPo or LiIon batteries and have abused more than my share of them. I have dropped them >100' onto asphalt, run them full tilt into the shed at the field, Hit ghost branches, hit fence posts, discharged them at rates greater than spec, run them down to cutoff/brownout. I have seen what "can happen" plenty of times at FliteFest during combat.

They do not just spontaneously combust without reason or just short out. If they are physically damaged, discharged at extremely high rates, or charged at rates greater than design spec, sure, they can ignite.

If you have one that is damaged, discharge it fully and don't use it any more. (except maybe in combat or a plane you hate)
 

Santa Cruz

Active member
I have not had any issues with LiPo or LiIon batteries and have abused more than my share of them. I have dropped them >100' onto asphalt, run them full tilt into the shed at the field, Hit ghost branches, hit fence posts, discharged them at rates greater than spec, run them down to cutoff/brownout. I have seen what "can happen" plenty of times at FliteFest during combat.

They do not just spontaneously combust without reason or just short out. If they are physically damaged, discharged at extremely high rates, or charged at rates greater than design spec, sure, they can ignite.

If you have one that is damaged, discharge it fully and don't use it any more. (except maybe in combat or a plane you hate)

You are a very lucky man, i hope your luck continues.
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
Moderator
Which is why you see it during Flite Fest 🤣🤣

Guilty!

I have also seen some new huge 10,000 Mah packs that got impaled in a crash because the motor mount bolts stuck through far enough that the battery hit them in a crash.
 

Houndpup Rc

Legendary member
I have not had any issues with LiPo or LiIon batteries and have abused more than my share of them. I have dropped them >100' onto asphalt, run them full tilt into the shed at the field, Hit ghost branches, hit fence posts, discharged them at rates greater than spec, run them down to cutoff/brownout. I have seen what "can happen" plenty of times at FliteFest during combat.

They do not just spontaneously combust without reason or just short out. If they are physically damaged, discharged at extremely high rates, or charged at rates greater than design spec, sure, they can ignite.

If you have one that is damaged, discharge it fully and don't use it any more. (except maybe in combat or a plane you hate)
Closest I have ever gotten was, I plugged a 3s pack into a 4s port and it was charged to like 14v....It was getting pretty warm when i checked on it so I just unplugged it and ran it outside! (y)
 

Mr Man

Mr SPEED!
The closes I had was just 2 weeks ago... My battery ejected out of my plane at about 300ft, and was squished sideways when I found it 😂😂. I just dropped it off at Home Depot on my way home.
 

Mr Man

Mr SPEED!
I was more worried about the plane, because it was a 1100mm durafly spitfire, that is now discontinued...... It dove straight down lol. But at least I got some touch up paint already 🤣
 

Houndpup Rc

Legendary member
Sorta, fuselage is broke in half, wing is cracked, nose broke off, but it'll fly again 😂😂
That's good! 😁👍 (I did that with my interceptor last crash and it made a 3-4" deep hole in the ground where the nose went in!😂😂😂)
 

bisco

Elite member
I believe the lipo danger is overblown hype, and that’s a good thing to help protect people from the very small danger of charging inappropriately, or continuing to use a damaged battery.
I’m not trying to minimalize it, but I don’t think you have to be lucky never to have had a problem.
Like anything in life, reasonable caution is the watchword
 

Mr Man

Mr SPEED!
Yup, they're tougher than most think. It's just that the media over-hypes the fact that they can start on fire. But you're right, caution is still necessary (y)
 

Piotrsko

Legendary member
Every so often a pack goes unstable or a cell shorts or leaks. That's about it. Was worse back couple years ago because there weren't any rules for safe. Nowadays, they are like anything else semi dangerous: keep your head screwed on straight, dont take shortcuts, egbok.
When was the last time you had a gasoline fire (not in a VW bug and are totally preventable)?
When was the last time you had a Zorch? (Large wattage electric arc. Name derived from sound it makes. Pop is a extremely small zorch)
 

LitterBug

Techno Nut
Moderator
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Part of me really wants to take this bear out to the field, poke it, and bring it back to life just for fun. It is currently inert. Maybe super fast charge it or super fast discharge it.

Using "name brand" rather than the cheapest cut price stuff can also make a difference. A brand that has been around the block a while has a reputation to protect.
 
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