How do I flip a Quadcopter

[CameraFlyVideo]

Hello, this is my first time posting. I have been flying a Turbo Ace Matrix and a QX350 using a DX8 in manual mode. Is there a way I can program my controller to get my QX350 to flip like a mini indoor quad(ya know). Or is it strictly manual rudder and aileron stick movement. Or both.
Please Help...I am getting tired of just putting around the RC Park.
Best,
Davy

 

[makattack]

Sorry, I'm fairly new to multirotors myself, but I would recommend practicing on a simulator first, if you can. Otherwise, get a couple mistakes high, and just make sure you're in manual or acro mode and try a flip on a single axis (pitch vs roll). That's how I'd do it. Just like doing acrobatics for the first time on a fixed wing airplane.

Oh, it wouldn't really be rudder control, by the way... that would be more like a "pirouette" or a spin -- you would use the pitch or roll sticks to do your flip (elevator and aileron in fixed wing terms).

 

[Craftydan]

Davy,

Welcome to the forum!

The manuver is simple, but it takes a little nerve and practice (if you choke, you will crash).

- TURN OFF ANY AUTOLEVEL (you can flip in multiwii's "horizon" mode but for the first few times, you don't want it fighting you as it comes out of self level)
- make sure your rates/stick scaling are high enough to perform the manuver -- the faster you can roll/pitch, the better.
- first, get used to throttle pumps -- get into a stable hover, then punch the throttle to near full for 2-5s, and back off. descend and repeat until you feel comfortable with this

- ***when you're ready to break your quad into a million pieces*** do a throttle pump, and as you reach the top, as you back off throttle, give full hard elevator (or aileron)
-- as it rotates past 90 degrees your throttle should be down to about 1/4 -- **don't go lower!** if your ESCs shut off, you will crash.
-- As it rotates through 270 degrees begin your catch -- pump your throttle up to ~3/4
- as it comes level flatten her out and bring her back to a hover

- Repeat

 

[makattack]

Ooo... that's definitely a great tutorial Dan! Yeah, listen to Dan. In fact, I'll be following that when I get the nerve up to try flipping. I'll just practice on my nanoqx, though!

 

[Snarls]

Flite Test did a video with David a while ago that explained how to flip a quadcopter and the effects of stick scaling. They also fly over an area with thick grass which minimizes damage if you do happen to crash.

 

[Craftydan]

Flite Test did a video with David a while ago that explained how to flip a quadcopter and the effects of stick scaling. They also fly over an area with thick grass which minimizes damage if you do happen to crash.

lol! Forgot about that video

Mak,

Picked that up from Matt Hall of Simplecopter fame -- looking at his videos, if it doesn't flip a 1/2 dozen times he wasn't trying

His method served me well, despite the fact I keep it at two flips or less (more and I end up stopping early/late and complete a notorious 1/2 flip). Get the nano flipping and the bigger frames are a cinch

 

[joshuabardwell]

How to flip a multirotor? Connect the motors to the wrong output pins! AMIRITE?!

I'll be here all week...

 

[CameraFlyVideo]

Nice! Thanks for the help everyone including Mr. Josh. I have moved my Expo aileron and elevator up to 40. I will practice with my little 1SQ that I took to camera off of and move up to my larger QX350. I'll let y'all know if I am successful.
Thanks again,
Davy

 

[CameraFlyVideo]

Status update: 1 1SQ indoor quad (CCDcamera removed) down without a successful flip. I was flying it full speed into stairs, hardwood floors...people...I guess I should try with a ladybird or something indoor/outdoor. Then, find some grass and try again.

 

[CameraFlyVideo]

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[Craftydan]

I was kinda wondering if the 1SQ could fly full acro, b ut I've never played with one and couldn't find anythign but "it flies great" describing *how* it flew. I know the NanoQX and 180QX can switch to full acro but I didn't know of any other micro-or-smaller quad that could.

Most quads with a self-level feature also have an angle limit as well. While that aids stability tremendously, it makes a manual flip nearly impossible.

. . . and indoors, I hesitate to even flip my ProtoX. With learning to flip, altitude is your friend.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

Landing usually works for me. Ends up upside down almost every time.

 

[Craftydan]

I've seen how you "land".

I'm not surprised

 

[xuzme720]

Check the sig...nuff said!

 

[makattack]

If you are interested in flipping, you have got to watch final glide aus' flying.http://forum.flitetest.com/showthread.php?14314-OneShot-on-Naze-32-(Cleanflight)-comparison

He also landed upside down

 

[coppercanyon]

I started flipping my OPQ with KK2.5 board loaded with stevis firmware last week. I increased my stick scaling to 100 in pitch and roll values. It flipped easily. This weekend I actually did a double flip. Had about 5 feet to spare above ground after completing. It is definately more fun now. Next is diagonal flips. I did a couple by accident.