Heck I remember when RC used tubes! Well, that was in a boat though... Hi, I'm 71 and eagerly awaiting an Avantex mini trainer with SAFE which may save me from my long disastrous series of crashes and fly aways. I really enjoy the FliteTest videos and what I think would suit me is a Sea Duck because theres a lot more flat water here than usable ground space. I wish the prices were ALL inclusive! So like really RTF none of this, oh yeah and you also need...'cos its pretty darn expensive when you add up all the other stuff. Thats why I went with a BangGood fifty buck deal. On a pension I cannot afford to spend my monthly income on something that could easily get lost or wrecked. I'd NEVER hear the end of it!