I see a lot more carbon props on DJI copters than on racing quads. Copters spinning longer rotors tend to benefit the most from balancing and ultra-rigid high dollar props. Longer rotors require more torque to spin. DJI motors have MUCH more torque than those on my little racers.
I agree with you Bigs that the props on a DJI Phantom aren't much to worry about. It's the energy of the thing coming down from 1000 ft that worries me. Once it's out of your control, only chance dictates how much damage it can cause.
My point is not that the copters are inherently dangerous, but that they are sold as toys. Some copters are toys and may be regarded as such. Some copters are not toys and should be treated with respect. Some mall kiosks are selling the fiction that all copters are toys. This is where I see the problem.
If you don't know the difference between a DJI Phantom and a Zyma X1, you shouldn't be handling either. There is a learning curve here for some newbies. It is on we who understand the difference to make newbies aware of the hazards. If you have no idea the hazards exist at all, you are a danger to yourself and others. This is true with freezer doors, guns, compressed air, automobiles, medications and plastic bags.
If you are or were a shooter or a long haul trucker or full scale pilot, you already think this way. You have the mindset to recognize the danger and take precautions. IMO, this is a mindset that is rapidly fading in the USA and not because of technology.
I also agree with you, Bigs, that some folks are horrid teachers. The whole 'go read a book' thing and 'go away kid you bother me' mentality that happens at some clubs is a problem and a barrier to learning and people getting into the hobby. Here at FT, that mentality is rare. Most folks here will help even the most challenged newbie so long as the purpose is fun (not like the twerp putting guns on quads).
I don't hate DJI and I don't hate newbies or turn them away. I do worry about the guys who spend $1000, consider their machine a toy, never try to learn to fly, never read up on lipo fires and have no clue about RF or failsafe. Newer technologies are enabling unscrupulous vendors to take advantage of such people by making the products seem safer than they are.
The solution is dialog, education, patience, fun and understanding; things I find in abundance here in our forums.
I agree with you Bigs that the props on a DJI Phantom aren't much to worry about. It's the energy of the thing coming down from 1000 ft that worries me. Once it's out of your control, only chance dictates how much damage it can cause.
My point is not that the copters are inherently dangerous, but that they are sold as toys. Some copters are toys and may be regarded as such. Some copters are not toys and should be treated with respect. Some mall kiosks are selling the fiction that all copters are toys. This is where I see the problem.
If you don't know the difference between a DJI Phantom and a Zyma X1, you shouldn't be handling either. There is a learning curve here for some newbies. It is on we who understand the difference to make newbies aware of the hazards. If you have no idea the hazards exist at all, you are a danger to yourself and others. This is true with freezer doors, guns, compressed air, automobiles, medications and plastic bags.
If you are or were a shooter or a long haul trucker or full scale pilot, you already think this way. You have the mindset to recognize the danger and take precautions. IMO, this is a mindset that is rapidly fading in the USA and not because of technology.
I also agree with you, Bigs, that some folks are horrid teachers. The whole 'go read a book' thing and 'go away kid you bother me' mentality that happens at some clubs is a problem and a barrier to learning and people getting into the hobby. Here at FT, that mentality is rare. Most folks here will help even the most challenged newbie so long as the purpose is fun (not like the twerp putting guns on quads).
I don't hate DJI and I don't hate newbies or turn them away. I do worry about the guys who spend $1000, consider their machine a toy, never try to learn to fly, never read up on lipo fires and have no clue about RF or failsafe. Newer technologies are enabling unscrupulous vendors to take advantage of such people by making the products seem safer than they are.
The solution is dialog, education, patience, fun and understanding; things I find in abundance here in our forums.
