naze32 won't lift

[austingillis85]

Ok guys I'm new here but been doing multi rotors for a while now.
I decided to go from a naza lite to a naze32 acro. I got everything soldered and did the basic setup like on these guys video and most on youtube.
For the lift of me I can't figure out whats going on.

Even in rate mode (nothing selected) it freaks out. I've attached a link to show you. It will fight everything I do even if its pretty close to level. If its off level it try's to flip over and over with random motors.
If I go to angle (which I do half way through the video) it try's to just keep flipping with one motor at a time.

I've re calibrated the ESC's multiple times, calibrated the accelerometer multiple times and reset to defaults. From what I can see on the sticks its good. I've also looks at rotation and motor placement about a million times.
I've also tried baseflight and cleanflight both with the same issue. Could it be a bad motor?

So at first I un arm. Pull throttle up about 20% in rate mode. Middle of the video I go into angle with the same issue.

I'm at my wits end guys any suggestions?

 

[cranialrectosis]

Holey cow what a monster!

I think you have something connected incorrectly but it is hard to tell with all that force happening.

I recommend you take the props off and spin up the motors in acro mode. Dip the front. The front motors should spin up harder. Dip the right. The right motors should spin up harder. Dip the left and the rear one at a time. Each time, the motors on the side you dip to should increase speed.

If not, you likely have ESCs connected to the flight controller incorrectly.

If so, have you calibrated your ESCs through the flight controller?

If so, please post your PIDs.

 

[austingillis85]

OK I did that and for the most part they would speed up. The only one that was a little weird was the front left or motor number 4. It didn't react the same as the rest. This is the motor that has the BEC coming off of it. How is everyone else or how do you normally give the board power? Just one bec 5v from an esc?

Also should it be spinning up motors when tilted and moved even in rate mode?

I checked again and it looks like the sensors from the receiver is connected correctly. Also checked the motor and esc connections and looks correct there too.

I calibrated the ESC's through the motors tab by checking the box, putting them at full. Plugging the quad in, beeps, then pulling the motors to 0. Beeps again then unplug. They all seem to start at the same time

How much vibration is ok? My motors have vibration on their own but I'm not sure what is acceptable.

Here are my PID's

 

[austingillis85]

In the motors tab I ran the motors from highest speed to lowest speed and the accelerometer said my highest vibration was .06 and -.06. Is that pretty bad? Of course who knows what its like with blades on

 

[cranialrectosis]

Your roll/pitch/yaw rates are 0. Your gains are default, high but likely doable. The copter may wobble due to high gains but it shouldn't be twitchy unless your copter rc rate is high. I suspect it is at 90 which is low. I also can't see your expo numbers but if they are default also the copter should be a marshmallow.

Your issue is not likely vibration.

The copter should counter your inertia with force in acro mode.

I have copters powered via ESC BEC, UBEC and Pololu voltage regulator. They all work the same for me.

In order, this is what I would do to troubleshoot. Do these all in acro mode.

Is it possible you have triggered auto tune in Cleanflight? If no, proceed.

Lower P gains by 1/2 and attempt a hover. If the problem persists, proceed.

Remove the props. Go into the motors tab and check the box and spin up motor 1, note the number when it begins to spin. All 4 motors should begin at exactly the same number. If they do the ESCs are calibrated proceed to the next test.

With the props off, does motor 4 jitter when you give it just a little power? Swap out that motor with a another motor on the copter. If the problem moves, it is the motor or a connection on the motor. If it stays put, it is the ESC or a connection on the ESC. If it goes away, you may have a loose connection that is waiting to fail on you in the air. If motor 4 does not jitter or if you resolve this and the problem continues, proceed.

With the props off, do the motors react correctly when you spin them up and tip the copter? If yes, your ESCs are connected correctly to the flight controller. Proceed.

Have you tested your motor's spin direction and are those correct? If yes, proceed.

Is the issue visible without the props? If no, do the props slip or were they not completely tight on the motors? If the props were tight and could not slip or if the issue is visible without the props, proceed.

Do all your motors spin by hand easily? Do you feel any grit or hear any pings when they spin?

 

[austingillis85]

I don't know what it was but I followed all of your steps and unplugged everything and plugged them back and boom. Flying like a dream.
I wish I could say it was "this" but I still have no idea. Just glad its going.

I really want to thank you for taking the time to work and write that all out for me. Guys like you make the hobby and forum fun. So thanks

 

[cranialrectosis]

I am glad it is flying. If you can, post video. We LOVE video of flying stuff here.

I am hoping it was all caused by too high a P gain. However, if the problem comes back, look closely for cold solder joints between the esc and motor 4.

Thank you for asking for help here on our forums. I hope you stick around and do a build thread or two. Every successful build enhances our hobby and our forums.

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