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Need help with parts

#1
I am starting to get into fpv drone flying. I'm going to use the ZMR250 body and I was wondering if u knew of any good controllers with a built in monitor. Also I was wondering if u guys have used the dys BE1806 2300kv brushless motors. Becuz I saw something that said u need to have 2 cw and 2 ccw motors but I can't find them. I would like to use GemFan 6045 carbon fiber props and I need to know which ones to get. Thank you ahead of time for any help you give me:confused:
 

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Welcome to the forums first.
Controllers wont have a video screen built in. But you can get kits to mount them to your radio. The ccw and cw is how the motor spins so that the yaw is canceled out with out moving the rudder stick. If you see that on a motor it is talking about how the threads are, you know righty tighty leftie loosey .... well the other option is leftie tighty...... All that does is help make sure your props don't come off if they come into contact a non moving object. If this is your first quad don't start with carbon fiber. get some regular plastic ones. You will crash enough times and will go through props like a fat kid in a candy store. Valuehobby.com is where I got a bunch of my first orders of props. I believe they have prop sets for multirotors, one of each type of rotation.
I hope this helped.
 

pressalltheknobs

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On a quad 2 motors rotate in one direction and 2 motors rotate in the other. Brushless motor rotate in either direction equally well. The CW and CCW you see talked about refers to the direction of the thread on the prop shaft. Looking from the top, if the prop rotates CCW then it's best to have a CW thread. If the prop rotates CW then it's best to have a CCW thread.

DYS 1806 motors are a popular choice. They seem to be strong not too expensive, and are good for for light 250 builds.

I have seen DYS 1806 motors with either CW or CCW adapters but most often you will find them with CW adapters. For small motors you can use all CW threaded motors but you will need to use nyloc nuts for the ones that will spin CW to stop the props from undoing the nut. So long as you tighten the nuts appropriately (just tight enough - not too tight) and check before each flight it seems this works fine.

If you are fussy then you can get these adapters... http://www.flyingtech.co.uk/frames-...w-self-locking-prop-adpaters-dys-be1806-motor

If by "good controllers with a built in monitor" you mean an RC transmitter with a build in FPV screen, those are really only sold as part of Ready To Fly (RTF) quads. Mostly for hobby FPV set ups people use googles or a separate screen mounted on a regular RC transmitter. People attach the video receiver and monitor to the handle of the RC transmitter. Here' an example RTF setup that uses the i6 TX in this way just to illustration what I mean...

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Rac...nch-32CH-Monitor-HD-Camera-RTF-p-1008942.html

I'm not recommending that rtf quad particularly.

The FPV system is separate requiring a separate radio link from the model. There are some low end kits for this but mostly it's picking components. Be aware that you really need a Ham Tech license in the US for any Video transmitter over 25 mW.

What RC transmitter to get depends on your budget and goals. If you are looking for something with all the essential features out of the box for not much money then the FlySky/Turnigy i6 is worth a look for around $50 with a receiver. If you like Spektrum then the Dx6i is ok but there are lots of other good choices in the $100- $250 range. They generally do not work with each other so once you choose one you will have to use that brand's receiver on all your models. Some like Spektrum are popular enough that other companies make less expensive but compatible receivers.

Probably would bother with carbon fiber props to start. They are more expensive an you will just break them. They are potentially more dangerous since they are stiffer. Best props for the beginners are probably http://www.dalprops.com/ also known surveilzone DAL unbreakable props http://www.surveilzone.com/Multi-Rotor-t-272 They are not unbreakable but they are harder to break.
 
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On a quad 2 motors rotate in one direction and 2 motors rotate in the other. Brushless motor rotate in either direction equally well. The CW and CCW you see talked about refers to the direction of the thread on the prop shaft. Looking from the top, if the prop rotates CCW then it's best to have a CW thread. If the prop rotates CW then it's best to have a CCW thread.

DYS 1806 motors are a popular choice. They seem to be strong not too expensive, and are good for for light 250 builds.

I have seen DYS 1806 motors with either CW or CCW adapters but most often you will find them with CW adapters. For small motors you can use all CW threaded motors but you will need to use nyloc nuts for the ones that will spin CW to stop the props from undoing the nut. So long as you tighten the nuts appropriately (just tight enough - not too tight) and check before each flight it seems this works fine.

If you are fussy then you can get these adapters... http://www.flyingtech.co.uk/frames-...w-self-locking-prop-adpaters-dys-be1806-motor

If by "good controllers with a built in monitor" you mean an RC transmitter with a build in FPV screen, those are really only sold as part of Ready To Fly (RTF) quads. Mostly for hobby FPV set ups people use googles or a separate screen mounted on a regular RC transmitter. People attach the video receiver and monitor to the handle of the RC transmitter. Here' an example RTF setup that uses the i6 TX in this way just to illustration what I mean...

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Rac...nch-32CH-Monitor-HD-Camera-RTF-p-1008942.html

I'm not recommending that rtf quad particularly.

The FPV system is separate requiring a separate radio link from the model. There are some low end kits for this but mostly it's picking components. Be aware that you really need a Ham Tech license in the US for any Video transmitter over 25 mW.

What RC transmitter to get depends on your budget and goals. If you are looking for something with all the essential features out of the box for not much money then the FlySky/Turnigy i6 is worth a look for around $50 with a receiver. If you like Spektrum then the Dx6i is ok but there are lots of other good choices in the $100- $250 range. They generally do not work with each other so once you choose one you will have to use that brand's receiver on all your models. Some like Spektrum are popular enough that other companies make less expensive but compatible receivers.

Probably would bother with carbon fiber props to start. They are more expensive an you will just break them. They are potentially more dangerous since they are stiffer. Best props for the beginners are probably http://www.dalprops.com/ also known surveilzone DAL unbreakable props http://www.surveilzone.com/Multi-Rotor-t-272 They are not unbreakable but they are harder to break.
So if I get those motors I don't have to worry about cw and ccw. Also do I still need to get cw and ccw props?
 

pressalltheknobs

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So do I not need to get cw and ccw. I can just get 4 of that motor? Also do I need to get cw and ccw props?
yes. You still have two motors rotation one way and two motors rotating the other so you need two CW and two CCW props. You also need nylock nuts with the correct size thread for the prop shafts.

Nyloc Nut size is probably M5 but you should check.

These ones are a bit fancy but just to give you an idea
http://www.amazon.com/Deez-Nuts-Alu...UTF8&qid=1453859435&sr=8-29&keywords=M5+nyloc

You probably can buy ordinary zince plated steel ones at you local hardware store
 
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pressalltheknobs

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The type of motors I mentioned already come with a "cap" or cover like the nylock
Probably not. They come with prop nuts but that won't be good enough to counteract a CW motor with a CW prop. You will need actual nylocs (and maybe some "blue" loctite). And you will need to check them each time you fly.