Redesigning the Blunt nose Versa to fit my Turnigy 3s 2200mah batteries

endfim72

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The plans : View attachment BN Versa VM 1.1.pdf
!!!! *note the black line at the front hatch. This should be a red score line
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6/17/2015 The maiden went beautifully yesterday! I may need to adjust the CG marks or remove some weight. I trimmed a lot of elevator into it to keep the nose up. I slid the battery to the rear a bit on the second flight and was extremely pleased. The third flight was interesting. When the prop came off shortly after take off, I suddenly remembered having only hand tightening the nut. My first thought was get it down quick, but then I realized that it was in no hurry to come down. Without the prop it was content to glide down for what seemed like forever. I was ecstatic. I wonder if a folding prop will work? I'll get some video soon I hope. I need a way to film when I'm alone.


6/15/2015 The build is now complete. I celebrated with watermelon. It took a fair amount of sanding to join the wings and to install the wing tips. Nothing drastic, but I had to focus on the bottom plate. This could be adjusted in the plans a bit, but it was quick and easy. Some other notes:
-My batteries fit now. It's tight, but it works! I used some temporary wedges made of DTFB to help keep the battery compartment in the shape I wanted while building the center section.
-I used the Walmart Ross foamboard. It's really water resistant and seems very sturdy. I like it! Although, It doesn't peel easily. We'll see how it holds up.
-Due to the swept back design it still needs a fair amount of nose weight to balance. I'm pleased with it though. I can double up on my batteries or add a camera in the future. I put about a 200 gram old nihm battery in the front along with a single Turnigy 3s 2200mah.


Original post:
I've had my eye on the versa for a while, but I noticed the slew of Turnigy 3s 2200mah batteries I have would be a tight fit. Now I've finally decided to take on this build, but I wanted to make some changes. The spar in the Versa is 0.9" thick while my batteries are 1.0" thick, and I've read a lot about the tail heavy pusher configuration. My goals here are to help with the CG a bit as others have done while keeping the wing shape, get my batteries in the wing, and to keep each wing on one sheet of DTFB.

With those goals in mind, I could not simply scale the plane. As a result, the versa has grown longitudinally and vertically without changing the width. This disproportionate growth might prove to be detrimental to the build, but I'm hoping for a happy accident. Here's what I've come up with below.
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You can see the original versa in black. It's laid over the larger BN Versa. The spar is now 1" thick, and I've moved the motor mount forward in a way that minimizes "sharp turn" weak points.

I've attached the plans as well should anyone else be so daring as to join me. It's my first attempt to contribute to the community in this way, so let me know if the plans are useable. I can tile them if anyone is interested. The CG is an educated guess based off FT's plans.
 
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Cool, two different approaches to the same issues with the BNV. We posted at almost the exact same time.
http://forum.flitetest.com/showthread.php?19423-Versa-Blunt-Nose-Pun-Jet-MASHUP

I wanted to get some space a little farther out in front of the CG to help balance it out. That's why I added the Pun Jet nose to it. We'll see if it works. I really like your idea too, it definitely keeps the Blunt Nose Versa look. Let me know if you can get it to balance out without adding extra nose weight.
 

menachg

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cool i wanted to to increase he sweep of my blunt versa for the longest time but i i wanted nice strait lines to work with i don't have the background in computer designing i would love to see some flight video and to know if stile needed some wheight in the front
 

endfim72

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I wanted to get some space a little farther out in front of the CG to help balance it out. That's why I added the Pun Jet nose to it. We'll see if it works. I really like your idea too, it definitely keeps the Blunt Nose Versa look. Let me know if you can get it to balance out without adding extra nose weight.

I like how you are making something useful out of the pun jet. It looks great. Can't wait to hear how it flies.

I doubt I'll get by without some nose weight. I might be able to move the firewall forward more in the end.
 
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Jaxx

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I was able to get my stock BNV to balance with two Zippy Compact 3S 2200s, but it will be nice to be able to use my Turnigy 2200s, since I have several of those.
 

endfim72

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I've updated the original post. I'm really happy with the results of the build. I did add a fair amount of nose weight, but I can run two batteries or add a camera in the future. If you are like me and have been holding off on this one because of those 1" thick Turnigy 2200's you have a pile of, then feel free to give it a go. Just don't expect to fly any puffed batteries. Consider that a built in safety feature.
 
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