Shendrones Tweaker build

[C0d3M0nk3y]

thanks.. now im confused.. i have been spending all this time practicing hovering nose in, nose out, circles, etc.... seems like a useless skill to have.. i may not like fpv after all. but ill build this thing since i have parts coming and give it ago.. maybe i just have to experience it to figure this out.

I think it will pay off. You may not be hovering in FPV, but you're getting more comfortable on the sticks and figuring out how to recover from mistakes. And the circles you're practicing will come in very handy since you'll have to use coordinated turns.

also what angle is your camera at? i think i will put mine at 15 degrees or so.. or should i go 10?

Mine's at 35 on this build. I'd suggest starting out with it flat. That way you'll be able to fly nice and slow when you're starting out.

 

[narcolepticltd]

thanks.. now im confused.. i have been spending all this time practicing hovering nose in, nose out, circles, etc.... seems like a useless skill to have.. i may not like fpv after all. but ill build this thing since i have parts coming and give it ago.. maybe i just have to experience it to figure this out.
also what angle is your camera at? i think i will put mine at 15 degrees or so.. or should i go 10?

chris.

all that practice is good stuff man. Flying FPV is a bit different but much easier than LoS (just a change in perspective). What he's trying to demonstrate is how difficult it is to hover if you tilt your camera... really only comes into play when you're trying to land - and again just takes some practice (or a servo set up to tilt the camera when you want to land )

 

[Cyberdactyl]

thanks.. now im confused.. i have been spending all this time practicing hovering nose in, nose out, circles, etc.... seems like a useless skill to have.. i may not like fpv after all. but ill build this thing since i have parts coming and give it ago.. maybe i just have to experience it to figure this out.
also what angle is your camera at? i think i will put mine at 15 degrees or so.. or should i go 10?

chris.

I built my mini without the intention of having a DVR on it. It was totally an experiment with vertical plate booms and FPV to see how it would work. It flies great, but now I'm kinda stuck making due by putting a Mobius on top of my battery. But here you can see the angle I fly it at with 4S and I'm still somewhat looking down during higher throttle. It's at around 26.

10-15 degrees is a good start. Once you start rockin' 25-35 is pretty much needed.

 

[JohnRambozo]

thanks.. now im confused.. i have been spending all this time practicing hovering nose in, nose out, circles, etc.... seems like a useless skill to have.. i may not like fpv after all. but ill build this thing since i have parts coming and give it ago.. maybe i just have to experience it to figure this out.
also what angle is your camera at? i think i will put mine at 15 degrees or so.. or should i go 10?

chris.

Stick with it. You'll be glad you did. All those basic LOS skills are crucial to have if you ever have video signal problems. I thought orientation from any direction was almost impossible at first, now its intuitive.

 

[JohnRambozo]

I built my mini without the intention of having a DVR on it. It was totally an experiment with vertical plate booms and FPV to see how it would work. It flies great, but now I'm kinda stuck making due by putting a Mobius on top of my battery. But here you can see the angle I fly it at with 4S and I'm still somewhat looking down during higher throttle. It's at around 26.

10-15 degrees is a good start. Once you start rockin' 25-35 is pretty much needed.

Interesting design. I guess I need to get with the program and move my weight above the props. I'm flying with the battery below but it seems (and it makes sense) you would turn faster with the battery on top even if it would be more prone to flipping on impact.

 

[Cyberdactyl]

Interesting design. I guess I need to get with the program and move my weight above the props. I'm flying with the battery below but it seems (and it makes sense) you would turn faster with the battery on top even if it would be more prone to flipping on impact.

I have the weight exactly at the prop plane with a 3S 1300 and darn close with 3S 1500. But with the Mobius and a 4S 1300 or with Mobius and a 3S 2200, it moves it ~10-15mm above the plane. It still flies great when I have the throttle above around 35%. However I have noticed when I reach the apex of an unpowered ballistic arc or if I am hovering and cut power it tends to want to roll or pitch over randomly. It's not violent or quick, but I can tell the CG is above the prop plane.

But yes, if you can get the vertical CG at or near the prop plane you should be able to snap roll or snap pitch much quicker. The good news is, the form factor of most brick mini's are basically there already and can be balanced to perfection in the vertical by minor component and battery layout decisions.

 

[jipp]

thanks for the feed back guys. ill keep practicing. im looking forward to a winter of lots of flying.
hope to start this build next month.. once my doctor lets me off his leash.

chris.

 

[C0d3M0nk3y]

This is a new one for me:

 

[Billchuck]

Go around the tree, not through the tree.

 

[jhitesma]

Nice!

 

[Cyberdactyl]

WOW, that really reinforces the awareness of flying away from the public.

Imagine flying at a park and having some little kids around watching because "It's SO cool." (which happens almost every time I'm at Dix Flying Field), and having a little kid clawing at his eye socket after a crash. (sorry, but I used the visual to reinforce the necessity of safety) :black_eyed:

 

[Billchuck]

WOW, that really reinforces the awareness of flying away from the public.

Imagine flying at a park and having some little kids around watching because "It's SO cool." (which happens almost every time I'm at Dix Flying Field), and having a little kid clawing at his eye socket after a crash. (sorry, but I used the visual to reinforce the necessity of safety) :black_eyed:

Rats. There goes my plan of using small children as gates for my upcoming mini quad race. I'll have to go with trained badgers instead.

 

[Cyberdactyl]

Rats. There goes my plan of using small children as gates for my upcoming mini quad race. I'll have to go with trained badgers instead.

 

[jipp]

i bet you wont ever be able to do that again.. go buy a lottery ticket.

chris.

 

[C0d3M0nk3y]

With that size, it's time to start flying under the pine.

I second, CyberD on the pine tree! Go for it! You know you want to!

I tried it today. Not much of a problem to get the Tweaker under there.

 

[cranialrectosis]

Geeeez.

Gonna have to find a harder place to fly there code.

 

[C0d3M0nk3y]

Gonna have to find a harder place to fly there code.

Thanks. I'm working on it.

 

[C0d3M0nk3y]

Gonna have to find a harder place to fly there code.

How's this?

 

[cranialrectosis]

Holy smokes, Code. That is awesome!

You need some croquet wickets to use for gates for that thing. Are you thinking Hawaii??

 

[Spastickitten]

Great job mate.