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Simple Cub or Storch?

#1
Hello,
I'm still quite new to the hobby and was wondering whether to get the Simple Cub or Storch. I've read good and bad things about both of them so I find it difficult to decide which one to pick. I have a very tiny amount of experience with RC planes so consider me a newbie.

Thanks for the replies,
Greg
 

basslord1124

Well-known member
#3
Still getting my Cub perfected (my last motor crapped out on me), but I have experience with the Storch. Storch is a great flyer. In the end though, I'm sure they both will be fine. And as @Merv pointed out, the overall space you need (for your flying field or car) could be a determining factor.
 
#4
Still getting my Cub perfected (my last motor crapped out on me), but I have experience with the Storch. Storch is a great flyer. In the end though, I'm sure they both will be fine. And as @Merv pointed out, the overall space you need (for your flying field or car) could be a determining factor.
What about their respective crash resistance? I've seen the Cub hit the quite hard and do just fine. Does it survive crashes better than the Storch?
 

kdobson83

Well-known member
#5
What about their respective crash resistance? I've seen the Cub hit the quite hard and do just fine. Does it survive crashes better than the Storch?
I've owned a cub, but not a Storch. The cub takes a hit for sure. It is smaller so less to damage, and I'd guess a bit lighter too.
I'd suggest a tiny trainer first tho. Fly that for a few, then move up. The tiny trainer is so versital.
 

Hai-Lee

Old and Bold RC PILOT
#6
Both the cub and the Storch have undercarriage! Until a beginner learns the basics of controlled flight the undercarriage becomes a liability because in a poor landing the undercarriage is driven into the fuselage causing damage OR it trips the plane on landing a nose in and even roll over both causing unnecessary damage. Another consideration is the added weight. The more the plane weighs the greater its damage in a crash!

A TT without landing gear is great for learning the basics and has no undercarriage to increase damage.

After learning to fly basically then seek out either a cub or Storch!

Just a thought!

Have fun!
 

Tronglodon

Junior Member
#7
Both the cub and the Storch have undercarriage! Until a beginner learns the basics of controlled flight the undercarriage becomes a liability because in a poor landing the undercarriage is driven into the fuselage causing damage OR it trips the plane on landing a nose in and even roll over both causing unnecessary damage. Another consideration is the added weight. The more the plane weighs the greater its damage in a crash!

A TT without landing gear is great for learning the basics and has no undercarriage to increase damage.

After learning to fly basically then seek out either a cub or Storch!

Just a thought!

Have fun!
Here's a photo of my Cub's landing gear giving up. After this I replaced the shredded foam landing gear insert with the 3d printed version on the FT Thingiverse page. That one has held up perfectly and seems to distribute the load of landing much better. I'll also add another vote for the Tiny Trainer. People have mentioned the TT is easy to fly and versatile, it's also a hell of a lot of fun. And shrugs off crashes like nothing happened.
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Turbo

New member
#8
One weakness in the Storch design as far as wrecks is the nose. My Storch crashed nose down on takeoff on its maiden flight due to some electrical problems. It wasn't a hard hit but the foam board piece on the top of the nose that holds the bbq skewers and power pod ripped up and off the side fuselage. I would re-enforce that inside corner where those pieces meet with a bead of hot glue. Then iron or cut a chamfer along the top edges of your power pod to clear the extra glue.
 
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basslord1124

Well-known member
#9
My Cub took some hard hits when I was having CG issues, and the only significant damage was the landing gear. Even that was easily repairable. Really foamboard in general can take a beating and may crinkle some but still be functional. BUT it also just depends how it hits when it crashes too. Tough and durable yes, but it can still break.
 

Rhaps

Active member
#11
@Hai-Lee already said everything important but if you absolutely have to choose between cub and storc I hold my torch for Storch.
It is a big plane so you need bigger field and storeroom and maybe car but the size makes it also very nice and docile flyer.
Also it's low wingloading means that you can add glue and foam for repairs and it will still fly fine.
Exhibit A, my Storch is still alive after almost one year
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and I'm going to fly it today again
 

Hoomi

Well-known member
#12
I've been enjoying my Storch. I haven't flown it with the leading edge slats yet, as it already seems to have such a low stall speed, that I suspect it'd fly on a sparrow fart. Its size makes it pretty easy to keep an eye on in flight, and easy to keep track of orientation. Of all the planes I've flown so far, I think it's the easiest to land of any. It'll slow down and settle gently, and on our dirt runway, I've not had any nose-over issues with it.

For a trainer, its size and low wing-loading makes it ideal for adding a gyro, as the additional weight isn't going to have any noticeable effect on it.

Here's the video from the maiden flight a few months ago:
 
#13
¿Cuál es el mejor modelo para un motor de 2212 1000 kW? Solo estoy buscando muy buenas aletas lentas lentas
Storch: 1400 mm
Storch más pequeño: 1200 mm
cachorro simple: 965 mm
cachorro grande simple: 1100 mm

opinions? votes?