Swift II build. Need some advise...

[jetpackninja]

Alright, so here's an update on my Swift II...I absolutely love it! Now I want a bigger wing to hold all of my FPV equipment. My plan was to purchase a ZII but now I think I need a Deep Reaper XL or the Hercules pusher version from our local Utah guy.

Ninja/ How do I get in touch with him? Is he active on this forum?

Sorry for the late reply.
Shoot a PM to LEE on RC Groups. He is active on the Utah County Flying thread and several others.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1335791&page=408

You can also reach him at crashtesthobby@gmail.com

 

[artesina]

I'd say it's a little bit heavy with a 1300mAh. Get a 1000mAh 3s instead. Note that the suggested motor is a bit weak, you might want to consider a different one.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=18205&aff=524347

This is a great receiver for the price, works well with DX6i:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=11965&aff=524347

So what motor you sudgest?
what esc you sudgest?
ok for rx but some people said I must add the satellite reciver. I need that? (range without that is only 40 meters?)
thx
p.s:I buy also a parkmaster 3d so I need 2 rx or I can buy only one and change quickly? (I don't brake nothing on models?)

 

[colorex]

So what motor you sudgest?
what esc you sudgest?
ok for rx but some people said I must add the satellite reciver. I need that? (range without that is only 40 meters?)
thx
p.s:I buy also a parkmaster 3d so I need 2 rx or I can buy only one and change quickly? (I don't brake nothing on models?)

My OrangeRx has been tested to about 900 meters, not 40. No need for the satellite if you don't fly in heavy phone use areas. Some phones work on 2.4 GHz which can give you lockouts.

Get two Rx's. It's the best option.

I can't tell you for sure on the motor. But if someone suggests me a motor, I can point you in the right direction for an ESC.

 

[jetpackninja]

These little motors with a 7x6 APC style prop work out well on this size plane. Buy a couple of them.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5423
The Hobbyking 25/30 card programmable works great with that setup.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/..._SS_Series_25_30A_ESC_card_programmable_.html
It'll be fine with a 1300mah 3s battery. Just make sure to get the CG right.
Those receivers will be fine as they are. Buy two of them they are only six bucks

 

[artesina]

We whait for motor answer nd thEN you sudgest me esc of hobbyking

 

[jetpackninja]

We whait for motor answer nd thEN you sudgest me esc of hobbyking

See post #144

 

[artesina]

So you sudgest only tow of them?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...rum_DSM2_6Ch_2_4Ghz_Receiver_w_Sat_Port_.html
No problem with other th or rx like that on same area?
I'm a beginner you know that ...so what you mean
It'll be fine with a 1300mah 3s battery. Just make sure to get the CG right
What I must do?
I need the card to program that or I need to do other?
This is the first time I assemble a plane
Other suggestions are welcome

These little motors with a 7x6 APC style prop work out well on this size plane. Buy a couple of them.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5423
The Hobbyking 25/30 card programmable works great with that setup.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/..._SS_Series_25_30A_ESC_card_programmable_.html
It'll be fine with a 1300mah 3s battery. Just make sure to get the CG right.
Those receivers will be fine as they are. Buy two of them they are only six bucks

 

[jetpackninja]

So you sudgest only tow of them?
Get as many as you want

No problem with other th or rx like that on same area?
I'm a beginner you know that ...so what you mean
Sorry, I don't know what you are trying to ask here...
These receivers are DSM2, will work with your Dx6i- no conflicts. Is that what you mean?

It'll be fine with a 1300mah 3s battery. Just make sure to get the CG right
What I must do?
Understand from the instructions with the plane where the CG needs to be.
Make sure the CG is correct by adjusting the locations of the parts or by adding ballast.
This is going to be true no matter what size battery you choose to use.

I need the card to program that or I need to do other?
You don't need the card, but it makes things easier if you need to change the settings.
The ESC should work fine with the default settings as delivered but can still be programmed like other ESCs by listening to the beeps and moving the transmitter sticks.

Is this your first plane? If so, I generally don't recommend a flying wing for a first plane...

 

[artesina]

Ok wht card you sudgest me? You can give me a link hobbiking?
Yes My first plane but I try lot of time with sim g5 and with wind condition, I have a heli mcpx v2 so...good hands for beginner.
I try with a friend help that one and parkmter 3d

So you sudgest only tow of them?
Get as many as you want

No problem with other th or rx like that on same area?
I'm a beginner you know that ...so what you mean
Sorry, I don't know what you are trying to ask here...
These receivers are DSM2, will work with your Dx6i- no conflicts. Is that what you mean?

It'll be fine with a 1300mah 3s battery. Just make sure to get the CG right
What I must do?
Understand from the instructions with the plane where the CG needs to be.
Make sure the CG is correct by adjusting the locations of the parts or by adding ballast.
This is going to be true no matter what size battery you choose to use.

I need the card to program that or I need to do other?
You don't need the card, but it makes things easier if you need to change the settings.
The ESC should work fine with the default settings as delivered but can still be programmed like other ESCs by listening to the beeps and moving the transmitter sticks.

Is this your first plane? If so, I generally don't recommend a flying wing for a first plane...

 

[jetpackninja]

Ok wht card you sudgest me? You can give me a link hobbiking?
Yes My first plane but I try lot of time with sim g5 and with wind condition, I have a heli mcpx v2 so...good hands for beginner.
I try with a friend help that one and parkmter 3d

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2169__TURNIGY_BESC_Programming_Card.html

This one works with the ESC that I provided the link for but also works on a wide range of other ESCs

 

[artesina]

Only informatio about apc...7x6 like this are ok?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5436.
One information when i BUY ON HOBBYKINKG...:
iF i BUY SOME OBJETC WITH "DE WAREHOUSE" AND OTHER LIKE THAT
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=8495

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5423

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/..._SS_Series_25_30A_ESC_card_programmable_.html

and

Turnigy 2836 Brushless Outrunner 1000kv (AUS Warehouse)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=24165
I have a problem for make only 1 order if they come form different warehouse?
Thx

 

[colorex]

I have a problem for make only 1 order if they come form different warehouse?
Thx

Yeah you can only order from one warehouse at the time.

So instead of getting the one that says AUS warehouse, you'd need this one:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8139

That APC prop looks nice, but what for?

 

[artesina]

the apc prop was ok for swift II or not?
The other (the motor) was for parkmaster 3d.
I buy that nanotech turnigy lipo:
four of that, It is ok?
Thx
We are ot but if you want to sudgest different motor,esc and lipo and servo(or other parts you sudgest me) for parkmaster (same garden, same medium wing and normal fly (not 3d extrteme fly), you are welcome
The problem of the link of AUS warehouse is: th hongkong warehouse doesnt have that motor disponible.
But I whait. I want a good motor, good qaulity (long duration fo battery and so long fly)

 

[artesina]

Yeah you can only order from one warehouse at the time.

So instead of getting the one that says AUS warehouse, you'd need this one:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8139

That APC prop looks nice, but what for?

Today I bought the engine that you suggested and I have listed batteries (1300mAh nanotech). I would like to know if support is included to mount the engine?
I have to buy these, too?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=8703&aff=484154


What are they?
thx
p.s:I tnk my serrv are no metallic..no problem?

 

[colorex]

I'd say a 1300mAh is a bit overweight. I'd use one of these battery instead:

This one for aerobatic performance: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=9491&aff=524347

This one for 3D performance: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=18205&aff=524347

Use this speed control: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=18005&aff=524347

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You can use those skids if you want - otherwise just put the servos on the top. They are used to protect the servo arms when landing on the ground. You can use plastic gear servos, but they can break more easily in a crash or hit.

The motor you bought comes with hardware - but it is backordered, so it may take a long time before they send it to you.

 

[artesina]

I buy what I see here:
http://forum.flitetest.com/showthre...Need-some-advise&p=26372&viewfull=1#post26372
I hopoe esc was ok.
For battery np I hope
I can buy 3-4 of them after.
The other set I give the link are for parkmaster
Wich motor you see are on "backorder" status?
Thx

 

[colorex]

This is on backorder:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8139

So if I understand correctly you got the CF2812, it's not on backorder. That is a very good motor.

The ESC is OK for that motor. I suppose this is for the Swift?

The links I gave you in post #155 are for the parkmaster 3D.

 

[Grumps]

Hello, I'm just got a Swift II, and I'm looking to set it up to be fairly quick. Any of you have any tips for Motor & ESC combos which should work? Can either go with 3S 1000 mAh or 3S 2200 mAh, whatever works best.

 

[jetpackninja]

See post #144- That and a couple of small metal gear servos.
They can be had from Hobbyking but if you live in the states, you can get them a lot faster from Grayson or Hobbypartz
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=23594 (looks like they are out of stock anyway)
http://www.hobbypartz.com/servo-mg90s.html
http://www.graysonhobby.com/catalog...p-1405.html?osCsid=92npmp67jrjip3svi53inaqc97

 

[Burg]

@ Artesina
@ Grumps

I posted some comments and photo's (post #46+#47) in this thread already but these are lately me and my flying friends preferred setups after having build and flown approx 12 wings MS Swift II:

Motor
For 3cell = crusing
For 4cell = more speed & combat
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17345__NTM_Prop_Drive_Series_28_26A_1200kv_250w.html
ESC
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...RUST_45A_SBEC_Brushless_Speed_Controller.html
3cell ipo
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18205__Turnigy_nano_tech_1000mAh_3S_45_90C_Lipo_Pack.html
4cell lipo
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18206__Turnigy_nano_tech_1000mAh_4S_45_90C_Lipo_Pack.html
Metal gear servo's
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...9MG_Metal_Gear_Servo_2_2kg_12_5g_0_10sec.html
7x6"Props
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__5436__APC_style_propeller_7x6_E.html

And if you want SPEEEED with a light setup (this is a screamer ):

2208/8-2600kv
http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?gOo=goods_details.dwt&goodsid=112&productname=
30amp ESC (same as Turnugy Plush 30amp)
http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?gOo=goods_details.dwt&goodsid=146&productname=
6x4" prop
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22423__APC_Style_Propeller_6x4_2pc_.html
3cell
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18205__Turnigy_nano_tech_1000mAh_3S_45_90C_Lipo_Pack.html

Mark.