That settles it. Not a Drone or a Quadcopte. We have a new and correct name RPV's

RAM

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Yep, RPV's. I like the sound of it. Plus a whole lot more in the full article

http://gizmodo.com/9-misconceptions-about-drones-that-engineers-wish-youd-1709827612

1. They’re not actually called drones, nor quadcopters

Calling them “drones” in the first place is a no-no, according to Vijay Kumar, an engineering professor at the University of Pennsylvania. (He’s not the only one who thinks so, either.) He and his research team work on aerial robots in his lab.

“The only thing that is drone-like about our robots is that they make a continuous humming sound,” Kumar says. “If I was an airforce pilot controlling a remotely piloted vehicle (which is what they are) and you called it a drone, I would be insulted. I can’t think of anything in the definition of a drone that is suggestive of what the pilot does. Certainly the characterization the pilot does no work does not do him or her justice.”

While we’re at it, Kumar also says calling a robot with four rotors a “quadcopter” is “just plain wrong English.”

“‘Quad’ refers to four. ‘Copter’ is short for helicopter. A quadcopter describes four helicopters. A robot with four rotors is a helicopter, perhaps a quadrotor helicopter. It is not a set of four rotorcrafts.”

What should you be calling “drones”—like the flying robots Kumar and his team make at his lab at Penn—instead? Kumar says: “The military uses RPVs (remotely piloted vehicles). When the vehicles are autonomous (like ours), they are robots.”
 

RAM

Posted a thousand or more times
That settles it. Not a Drone or a Quadcopter. We have a new and correct name RPV's

Yep, RPV's. I like the sound of it. Plus a whole lot more in the full article

http://gizmodo.com/9-misconceptions-about-drones-that-engineers-wish-youd-1709827612

1. They’re not actually called drones, nor quadcopters

Calling them “drones” in the first place is a no-no, according to Vijay Kumar, an engineering professor at the University of Pennsylvania. (He’s not the only one who thinks so, either.) He and his research team work on aerial robots in his lab.

“The only thing that is drone-like about our robots is that they make a continuous humming sound,” Kumar says. “If I was an airforce pilot controlling a remotely piloted vehicle (which is what they are) and you called it a drone, I would be insulted. I can’t think of anything in the definition of a drone that is suggestive of what the pilot does. Certainly the characterization the pilot does no work does not do him or her justice.”

While we’re at it, Kumar also says calling a robot with four rotors a “quadcopter” is “just plain wrong English.”

“‘Quad’ refers to four. ‘Copter’ is short for helicopter. A quadcopter describes four helicopters. A robot with four rotors is a helicopter, perhaps a quadrotor helicopter. It is not a set of four rotorcrafts.”

What should you be calling “drones”—like the flying robots Kumar and his team make at his lab at Penn—instead? Kumar says: “The military uses RPVs (remotely piloted vehicles). When the vehicles are autonomous (like ours), they are robots.”
 

PHugger

Church Meal Expert
He sounds like he takes himself too seriously.
I'm sure RPV will gain in popularity and Multirotor will diminish just because he said so..... (c8


Best regards,
PCH
 

RAM

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He sounds like he takes himself too seriously.
I'm sure RPV will gain in popularity and Multirotor will diminish just because he said so..... (c8


Best regards,
PCH

I like it. It captures the whole spectrum. Multirotor comes close but we can't fit the thrust vectoring single rotor designs under that name. RPV however covers them all.
 

makattack

Winter is coming
Moderator
Mentor
I still call them fixed wing vs. rotary wing aircraft sometimes... it's all semantics. Multirotor, quadrotor, tricopter, drone... heck a lot of the popular flight controllers will make your RC aircraft (fixed or rotary wing) a drone and will allow you to fly it by just programming a mission from a computer. You don't even need to touch a RC transmitter/controller to fly them.
 

Tritium

Amateur Extra Class K5TWM
It doesn't matter WHAT you call it. The NEWS MEDIA is in charge of the "Public Mind"! :p

Thurmond
 

RAM

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It doesn't matter WHAT you call it. The NEWS MEDIA is in charge of the "Public Mind"! :p

Thurmond

More from the article:

2. The biggest danger from drones isn’t invasion of privacy

Kumar admits that many people live in fear of camera-equipped drones. But the problem is that the legislation designed to combat these supposed privacy threats doesn’t actually deal with how RPVs actually work.

FAA regulations say you can’t fly personal drones above 400 feet over personal property. But is keeping drones at, say, 410 feet any more private? Your creepy neighbor leaning over your fence, taking photos with his phone is a bigger threat to your privacy than anything, as well as a more realistic one.

“Do people think about the number of pictures of them on the internet that were taken without their knowledge by smart phones and digital cameras?” Kumar asks. “Can you really prevent drones from taking pictures that [can’t already] be obtained on Google Earth?”

Mary Cummings, associate professor at the Department of Mechanical Engineering and Materials Science at Duke University, takes the argument a step further.

“It is actually very difficult to make sense out of what a ground control person sees from a drone camera,” she says. “It is like looking through a soda straw.” The military has the resources and trained personnel to do much more comprehensive surveillance, so she believes you shouldn’t worry about some inept peeping tom’s personal drone, like the ones we sometimes hear about in the news.

Brendan Schulman, an attorney specializing in laws surrounding unmanned aerial vehicles, points out that we don’t need special laws to prevent drones from invading our privacy. He says, “People also don’t seem to realize that existing laws concerning invasion of privacy, peeping toms, stalking, or unlawful surveillance already apply to the kind of concerns people keep talking about [with drones], so there is no need for an overreaching law specifically targeting drone technology. If someone is actually invading someone’s privacy, it is the misconduct that should be unlawful, regardless of the technology used.”

But... you should still be a little worried. Not about surveillance, per se, but that like any technology, flying robots can be used for nefarious purposes if they’re in the wrong hands.

“Any ‘drone’ can be hacked by a smart student in an hour,” Vijay Kumar points out. “Should we not be worrying about this instead? While the FAA is flogged for not being decisive, they are the only ones thinking seriously about safety. It amazes me that hobbyists can use ‘drones’ in populated areas, when we need drivers licenses to drive cars.”
 

HawkMan

Senior Member
whatever additional names we make up, Drone is still also a correct name, and unlike RPV it's easy to say and international .
 

Spastickitten

Senior Member
My goodness the replies are ferocious, it seems like a bunch of people that don't know whats happening are having some fun. ( Both "drone" and "quadcopter" people)
 

setishock

Junior Member
When I fly I am a multirotor pilot. I find our hobby models being lumped in with military unpiloted aircraft, personally offensive.
 

razor02097

Rogue Drone Pilot
It doesn't help when the media shines bad light on the word "drone" around any chance they can get. Basically conditioning the public to fear and sometimes even hate "drones". Personally I tend to call them multi-rotors. Short for multi-rotor model aircraft. But I do also say tricopter, quadcopter, hexacopter. I do however never use the word "drone" as I feel it is an incorrect association of my model aircraft.
 

jaysteel

Junior Member
I use the word multi-rotor, but I'm always talking to people who don't know what that is, so I have to translate it to "drone"
 

razor02097

Rogue Drone Pilot
Vijay Kumar said:
Any ‘drone’ can be hacked by a smart student in an hour, should we not be worrying about this instead? While the FAA is flogged for not being decisive, they are the only ones thinking seriously about safety. It amazes me that hobbyists can use ‘drones’ in populated areas, when we need drivers licenses to drive cars.


I'm tired of the drivers license analogy... I wish people would stop using it.

  1. Yes you have to pass a driver's test to get the license initially. But after that you just pay a rip off fee to renew it...for the rest of your life.
  2. The last time I flew a multi-rotor with a passenger on board was never. The next time I fly my multi-rotor with a passenger is never.
  3. A typical American sedan weighs almost 2300kg. My multi-rotor is less than 2kg.
  4. In 2013 32,719 people died in automobile accidents in America. In 2013 0 people died in radio controlled multi-rotor accidents in America.

If you are going to push licensing on someone for a hobby it better be for a very good reason. Maybe DJI will come out with some update that requires you to complete an online course and input a certificate number to activate your new multi-rotor or something. But making it illegal for me to fly my multi-rotor without a license that I built from scratch and going through the pain staking process of tuning to perfection is 100% bull****.