Beginner help !!

Sundhar

Junior Member
I am trying to scratch build a powered foam glider.There are mind boggling variety of brands of electronics to choose from(servos,battery,transmitter,receiver.....etc). I am pretty confused what to choose :confused::confused:

If you could help me with which brands to go with for those components it would be helpful. ;)

And it would also be helpful to other newbies who are in the same dilema !
 
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finnen

Senior Member
There is a lot to choose from =) We do need more info to help you. What glider are you building? Wing span, estimated all up weight, number of channels? Do you need a folding prop? Do you have any kind of electronics on hand? Do you plan on building more planes? Do you have any experience, or is this all completely new to you?

Regards, Joni
 

IFlyRCstuff

Flyer Of Many Things
If it is to be lightweight (super) go for little 5g servos. As for 9g, HXT900 seem to be fine and cheap.
Transmitter and reciever are a little tough, for that we need specific want/needs to help much, the reciever will follow the brand of the TX.

Batteries for gliders are usually small and 2s. This means 500mah or less. Nanotech and turnigy are cheap and haven't failed me yet, so I like them.
*glider, as in no motor for going back up*
 

Sundhar

Junior Member
There is a lot to choose from =) We do need more info to help you. What glider are you building? Wing span, estimated all up weight, number of channels? Do you need a folding prop? Do you have any kind of electronics on hand? Do you plan on building more planes? Do you have any experience, or is this all completely new to you?

Regards, Joni

This is all completely new to me. I am trying to build and fly my first plane which is a 'FT Simple Soarer' designed by Josh Bixler of flight test (easy and simple plane, perfect for a newbie) and after this i am planning to build more planes :D

He has given the following recommended electronics,but the problem is i don't know from where to get them

recommended electronics:
1300 kv 24g motor
10-15 amp
500-850 mAH 3s (20c)
(2-3) 9 gram servos

prop : 9x4.7 slow fly

weight 300 grams

and nothing about the transmitter and receiver :(


I am from Chennai, India and the hobby is not so popular there.I couldn't find a single hobby store selling these items and i don't know from where to get them online.

So if you could tell me from which online store to get them and also if any transmitter and receiver you recommend.(i am thinking of just 3 channels for now but later i would like to go to more channels).
 

TEAJR66

Flite is good
Mentor
Sundhar,

Welcome to the forums. Make sure you look around on this forum and on this one http://www.rcgroups.com/forums for other flyers in India.

Most of the stuff on that list is available from Hobby King. I do not know anything about the shipping to India, so that is something you need to research.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2069__hexTronik_24gram_Brushless_Outrunner_1300kv.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__4312__TURNIGY_Plush_18amp_Speed_Controller.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__662__HXT900_9g_1_6kg_12sec_Micro_Servo.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9275__Turnigy_500mAh_3S_20C_Lipo_Pack.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...7_229x119_5mm_w_Adapters_Black_5pcs_bag_.html

As far as radios go, there is a whole lot of personal preference that goes into that. It is my opinion (and just an opinion of mine), that this radio is a great beginner radio because of the functions available for the price. It also works with some of the most inexpensive receivers available.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/..._Module_8ch_Receiver_Mode_2_v2_Firmware_.html

These are the additional receivers for when you want to add more planes to your fleet.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__12339__Turnigy_9X_2_4GHz_8Ch_Receiver_V2_.html

You will need to be able to solder, or have it done for you. There are also a few little things extra that you will need. Things like a battery charger, battery connector for the ESC, and bullet connectors for ESC to Motor.

This is a simple battery charger for 2S and 3S batteries that will work on AC current around the world.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22410__HobbyKing_174_B3AC_Compact_Charger.html

These will get soldered to the ESC to connect it to your battery.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...T_battery_pigtail_12cm_length_10pcs_bag_.html

These are a common size bullet connector for connecting Motor and ESC.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39649__3_5mm_Gold_Compact_Connector_10pairs_.html

If you are scratch building, you will need pushrods, control horns and a firewall (thin plywood). There are plenty of resources for those things. If you get to that point and need help, come back to the forums.

Remember, these are just suggestions based on my experience and opinion. Feel free to research and make substitutions as you desire.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 

TEAJR66

Flite is good
Mentor
Bullet connectors get covered with electrical tape or heat shrink tubing to insulate them from shorting out.
 

Sundhar

Junior Member
Thanks Tommy it really helped me out !!!
I can't thank you enough !!!:D

Also there was something in the recommendations i couldn't understand:

Throws:
12 (degrees) deflection
25 (degrees) expo

if you can help me out with this :)
 

TEAJR66

Flite is good
Mentor
Sundhar,

The twelve degrees deflection is how far the control surface will move to each end. In this case, not much movement needed to control the airplane.

The Expo is the amount "softness" you are adding to the control. The center of the stick produces less movement while full stick movement produces full control surface movements. The control surfaces move at an exponential rate to the sticks not a direct or linear rate.

The first can be set up mechanically on your plane by using different hole combinations on the Servo Arm and the Control Horn. Closer to the center of the servo arm and further away on the control horn produces smaller movements. Furthest hole on the servo arm to closest hole on the control surface produces more extreme deflection or "throws". Mechanical advantages also change with these combinations. That means stress on servo gears and higher servo amp draw for extreme throws and less stress with lower draw for less throw. This deflection can also be controlled as a setting in the radio. The radio I linked is capable of this type of programming.

The second, the expo, is just a radio programming option. Again, supported in the radio I linked.

Also, here is a link I thought you might get some use from.
http://flitetest.com/articles/waterproofing-your-airplane

The article is about waterproofing your plane. But, given that you might find it hard to get foam board and your laminating technique might prove heavy, you could cut, sand and shape the foam you have available and give it this covering to make it stronger. Just an idea and I am not sure it will work. If you try it, let us know how it works.
 

ZoomNBoom

Senior Member
The suggestions so far are pretty sensible, but assuming you are completely new to the hobby, let me offer an alternative: buy something second hand, a set that includes radio/rx/battery/servo's etc. And I would suggest, a plane. Then you get something that will fly, is already set up and matched and you can concentrate on learning to fly. Should also save a pretty penny. Scratch build later. If your built doesnt fly very good, you're going to need some experience and skill to bring it back down in one piece, and to help you understand what is wrong with it. Id get that experience first if I where you.
 

wrayman

New member
I had scratch build nut ball I came up with an idea for putting servos instead of gluing them in I used two pieces of multi purpose ties I hot glued them in just in front and back of servos where the servo screws are . Drilled a very small hole (smaller then the screws) before making the small holes put servos in side by side and mark where the screws go and drill the holes ..So far its working pretty good. The servos don't move..This way I can take out my servos out and use them again in another plane..
P.S. works for me keeps my cost down..

I should of made a short video so you could see how its done ..