My new crazy 4 motor mini Lidl foamie build

Bonzodog

Lidl Master
A heads up on my latest Lidl cheap foamie glider rc build, my no. 20 conversion and a bit different. 😊

A Mini-Lidl with 4 brushed motors and differential thrust steering.

Full video coming soon! Watch this space.

 

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Houndpup Rc

Master member
A heads up on my latest Lidl cheap foamie glider rc build, my no. 20 conversion and a bit different. 😊

A Mini-Lidl with 4 brushed motors and differential thrust steering.

Full video coming soon! Watch this space.

Looks like you are using the same transmitter i use...Great product!
 

Bonzodog

Lidl Master
In a rather bizarre way, somewhat impressive.
Trying to get the power differential thrust balanced while using two different manufacture brushed ESC's has been a nightmare. I think this challenge may have beaten me, and it'll maybe end up with an aileron servo. 😪
 

Houndpup Rc

Master member
Trying to get the power differential thrust balanced while using two different manufacture brushed ESC's has been a nightmare. I think this challenge may have beaten me, and it'll maybe end up with an aileron servo. 😪
Whats your problem with it? I have figured out quite a bit with the FS-I6 and the FS-I6X......
 

Bonzodog

Lidl Master
Whats your problem with it? I have figured out quite a bit with the FS-I6 and the FS-I6X......
I've used differential thrust a couple of times before with my twins and had no problems, but this is with brushed motors and different esc's. Different manufacturers, and one is a 5A the other a 10A. They are not behaving the same, the power they are putting out isn't balanced as the throttle is opened. I balance the thrust in the mix but the thrust changes as you open the throttle. Impossible to control a plane like that. You need constant thrust level apart from when I use the rudder channel which is the slave.
 

Piotrsko

Master member
Suggest taking esc's and controlling them motors as designed: one left and one right for each esc. Motors need to be in same position inboard or outboard. Difference in power will tend to cancel out but should still act normal unless youre using two channels for motor then it's a mixing control issue in the TX.

Oddities In esc used to be a known back in the day
 

Houndpup Rc

Master member
I've used differential thrust a couple of times before with my twins and had no problems, but this is with brushed motors and different esc's. Different manufacturers, and one is a 5A the other a 10A. They are not behaving the same, the power they are putting out isn't balanced as the throttle is opened. I balance the thrust in the mix but the thrust changes as you open the throttle. Impossible to control a plane like that. You need constant thrust level apart from when I use the rudder channel which is the slave.
Try calibrating them together, I know I had that problem with my esc's (though I had tow of the same ones) They weren't starting up at the same time.
 

Bonzodog

Lidl Master
Whats your problem with it? I have figured out quite a bit with the FS-I6 and the FS-I6X......
I've used differential thrust a couple of times before with my twins and had no problems, but this is with brushed motors and different esc's. Different manufacturers, and one is a 5A the other a 10A. They are not behaving the same, the power they are putting out isn't balanced as the throttle is opened. I balance the thrust in the mix but the thrust changes as you open the throttle. Impossible to control a plane like that. You need constant thrust level apart from when I use the rudder channel which is the slave.
Try calibrating them together, I know I had that problem with my esc's (though I had tow of the same ones) They weren't starting up at the same time

If connected without mixes thrust appears to be the same. Anyhow finally last night in one of my many variations one of them gave up and was hot, so I have a matched pair on the way now. We will see how I get on with those.
 

Bonzodog

Lidl Master
Suggest taking esc's and controlling them motors as designed: one left and one right for each esc. Motors need to be in same position inboard or outboard. Difference in power will tend to cancel out but should still act normal unless youre using two channels for motor then it's a mixing control issue in the TX.

Oddities In esc used to be a known back in the day
The ESC's are set up with one channel for left motors and one channel for right, the idea being thrust is changed by using a mix from the rudder. I've used that successfully with brushless motors on my twins before.

Anyway, I've managed to burn one ESC out in my tests so have a new matched pair on the way now. With luck I'll have more success with those. ;)