Help! Master series design help thread
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Matthewdupreez
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Is inventor free??
Bo123
Elite member
You take the paper off the backside of the foam.
Pieliker96
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Highlight what you want, then right click and select "flip along" whatever axis. Works for axes outside of an within parts depending on what frame you're working in
rcbigtirepilot
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When CADing master series planes with formers, how thick do you make the skins?
Bo123
Elite member
5mm I think. Just like the foamboard.
Battery800
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or 3/16" for imperial
Baron VonHelton
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I have 2 peanut butter jars, one large, one small & I form the wings around them!
I didn't have to remove the paper, but admittedly it does tend to wrinkle a bit.
Whit Armstrong
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I use 5mm, but it's actually 3/16, which is like 4.8mm. 5mm ends up being a bit big in the A and B folds, but the glue fills in the empty space.
rcbigtirepilot
Legendary member
yeah I'm just having issues with the curved foam being too long when it wraps around the former
Whit Armstrong
Elite member
Yes, that happens a lot with the tail section, you'll notice it on quite a few of the early FT master series designs too. I think the best solution is to just shave off a bit of the edges from the skins.
rcbigtirepilot
Legendary member
also probably excessive because I've been using 0.2 inches for foamboard
Whit Armstrong
Elite member
also probably excessive because I've been using 0.2 inches for foamboard
Yes, extra thickness will do that. Maybe that's why it's been happening to me, as I use 5mm. 3/16 in. is the exact amount, but I find 5mm much easier for simplicity's sake. I haven't had problems with the majority of parts.
Help wanted.
I started trying to design master series style airplanes.. lots of ideas..
But what program is best for that? I use fusion 360 but still a nooby in that and I get stuck at the unfolding to template.
I get the advise to work in sheetmetal but havent gotten there yet.
help is apreciated
Noël
I started trying to design master series style airplanes.. lots of ideas..
But what program is best for that? I use fusion 360 but still a nooby in that and I get stuck at the unfolding to template.
I get the advise to work in sheetmetal but havent gotten there yet.
help is apreciated
Noël
Mr Man
Mr SPEED!
Onshape.
noahangel11
Elite member
I have mastered using Fusion and an external app to make great models. I can loft between formers and make a flat pattern of the loft.
As is evident in my SR-71, F-86 Sabre, Firefox, B-25, and many other models I have posted and shared on FT Fans page and on my page.
I learned a lot of techniques of design by observing other models, and then applying those design principles into the CAD world.
I have seriously considered creating a YouTube tutorial series on the process, but this is what has always held me back:
If I help everyone become master designers of their own planes, then where does that leave FT who relies on sales for existence? I do realize they are content creators and a lot of revenue comes from that, but they also have a product business. I am loyal to the team and not interested in damaging their business model.
I have never wanted to compete with FT, they are my friends.
Quite frankly, the early FT Fans expectation that every plane must come with free plans, and the outrage that pursued when they were no longer free, was also quite off-putting to me. A significant amount of effort goes into designing a plane that can be released as a product.
Also, every time I post or share a plane I get inundated with requests for the plans for free.
I do all the hard work, and everyone wants it now and free. On my page I put a link for donations. Only 1 kind person has ever donated after he downloaded plans.
Same thing goes for making videos of my techniques. I spent years perfecting it, and everyone wants the fast track to how to do it in a nicely packaged video. It puts me off.
I usually design hard to design models. I spent a lot of time mastering my craft and am still learning.
But don’t get me wrong, I do like to share, and if I get a good flying plane out of my effort, I usually share my planes and plans on my site or on this forum. I do like the family community of FT, and I love helping others and learning from others, and I love to share what I know. To a limit. I’d love to hear from anyone who has a similar experience. Am I letting a few bad apples ruin the whole cart?
You all are on the right track, and there is more than one way to do this. Persist like I have for the last few years and you will settle on a technique that works for you.
As is evident in my SR-71, F-86 Sabre, Firefox, B-25, and many other models I have posted and shared on FT Fans page and on my page.
I learned a lot of techniques of design by observing other models, and then applying those design principles into the CAD world.
I have seriously considered creating a YouTube tutorial series on the process, but this is what has always held me back:
If I help everyone become master designers of their own planes, then where does that leave FT who relies on sales for existence? I do realize they are content creators and a lot of revenue comes from that, but they also have a product business. I am loyal to the team and not interested in damaging their business model.
I have never wanted to compete with FT, they are my friends.
Quite frankly, the early FT Fans expectation that every plane must come with free plans, and the outrage that pursued when they were no longer free, was also quite off-putting to me. A significant amount of effort goes into designing a plane that can be released as a product.
Also, every time I post or share a plane I get inundated with requests for the plans for free.
I do all the hard work, and everyone wants it now and free. On my page I put a link for donations. Only 1 kind person has ever donated after he downloaded plans.
Same thing goes for making videos of my techniques. I spent years perfecting it, and everyone wants the fast track to how to do it in a nicely packaged video. It puts me off.
I usually design hard to design models. I spent a lot of time mastering my craft and am still learning.
But don’t get me wrong, I do like to share, and if I get a good flying plane out of my effort, I usually share my planes and plans on my site or on this forum. I do like the family community of FT, and I love helping others and learning from others, and I love to share what I know. To a limit. I’d love to hear from anyone who has a similar experience. Am I letting a few bad apples ruin the whole cart?
You all are on the right track, and there is more than one way to do this. Persist like I have for the last few years and you will settle on a technique that works for you.
Mr Man
Mr SPEED!
You designed a sr-71?
FT stated early on, it's not about the planes, it's about the fellowship. I see no reason why FT would be upset if you taught others to design. It's part of what they do already.
Don't be put off by the negatives. They're just distractions. Focus on sharing your techniques in a way you think will help others.
I think a YT channel would be appreciated by anyone wanting to design RC aircraft, or anything else for that matter. I would subscribe.
It was a lot of fun learning and continuing to learn Fusion. I'm still frustrated trying to make flat patterns for the skins of golden age racing planes. Tried exactflat and while it was still supported by Fusion it got pretty close but got closer using rollation. I'm going to experiment with onshape's flattening to see if that's less clunky.
Keep up the good work and don't let the spoiled noncontributors get you down.
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