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Conflicting info / foreigner flying in Canada

#1
Anyone make sense of this? :unsure:

https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviation/drone-safety/get-drone-pilot-certificate/exam.html
"All pilots of drones or “Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems (RPAS)” with a maximum takeoff weight of 250 grams up to and including 25 kilograms must pass an online exam."

"Foreign residents are not eligible to register or operate a drone in Canada. If you are a foreign resident and wish to operate a drone in Canada, you must apply for a Special Flight Operations Certificate."

https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviation/drone-safety/get-permission-fly-drone-outside-rules.html
"You are not a Canadian citizen, permanent resident of Canada or a corporation incorporated by or under the laws of Canada or a province"

You do not need this certificate if:
  • your drone weighs under 25 kg
 

Ketchup

4s mini mustang
#2
Actually it just means that you need to pass a test if your plane weighs between 250 grams and 25 kilograms. I’m not sure what happens above that.
 
#4
Where are you from, and what/where are you planning to fly?
From USA with 415g quad.

Just came across this: https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviation/drone-safety/register-drone.html "You must be registered to fly your drone after June 1, 2019."
(Following this leads to the same page stating: "*Are you a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada? No.
Foreign residents are not eligible to register or operate a drone in Canada. If you are a foreign resident and wish to operate a drone in Canada, you must apply for a Special Flight Operations Certificate."

As posted above, following steps to get SFOC states: "You do not need this certificate if: your drone weighs under 25 kg."

I'm currently up to FAA standards in the US:
  1. Register your drone, mark it on the outside with the registration number (PDF), and carry proof of registration with you."
  2. Drone operators to pass an online aeronautical knowledge and safety test and carry proof of test passage.

    https://www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_fliers/
 
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#5
I posted this question to 'Civil Aviation Services' general mailbox, I'll see what they say.

I believe with my documents and knowledge I would be totally fine flying responsibly while in Canada, I just wanted to follow any rules they may have here. Following said rules turns out to be a little confusing...
 

ElectriSean

Eternal Student
Mentor
#6
It looks like you'll need to do a SFOC to be fully legal, which will probably also require that you do the online exam. If you are in the AMA, I believe you can get in the MAAC exemption as we have a reciprocal agreement, but yeah, it's all confusing right now.
 
#7
It looks like you'll need to do a SFOC to be fully legal, which will probably also require that you do the online exam.
SFOC states: "You do not need this certificate if: your drone weighs under 25 kg."
Online exam states: "Foreign residents are not eligible to register or operate a drone in Canada. If you are a foreign resident and wish to operate a drone in Canada, you must apply for a Special Flight Operations Certificate."

It's an endless loop! Twilight Zone!

Thanks for the info on Model Aeronautics Association of Canada (MAAC), I'll see what they have in their resources.
 

Wildthing

Well-known member
#8
If you are a member of MAAC and of a sanctioned flight club you can fly at the club or any club without any of that crap, you are not legally allowed to just fly anywhere you want to.
 
#9
you are not legally allowed to just fly anywhere you want to.

You CAN legally fly anywhere you want to... just so long as rules are followed. But yes, I know what you mean.

Drone pilots must carry a valid drone pilot certificate and only fly drones that are marked and registered.
  • You must fly below 90 meters (295 feet) above the ground.
  • You must fly at least 30 meters (98 feet) away from vehicles, vessels and the public if your drone weighs over 250 grams (.55 pounds) and up to 1 kilograms).
  • You must fly at least 76 meters (250 feet) away from vehicles, vessels, and the public.
  • You must fly at least 5.6 kilometers (3.5 miles) away from aerodromes (any airport, seaplane base or area where aircraft take off and land).
  • You must fly at least 1.9 kilometers (1.2 miles) away from heliports or aerodromes used by helicopters only.
  • You must fly outside of controlled or restricted airspace.
  • You must fly at least 9 kilometers (5.5 miles) away from a natural hazard or disaster area.
  • You must fly away from areas where its use could interfere with police or first responders.
  • You must fly during the day and not in clouds.
  • You must keep your drone within your sight at all times while flying.
  • You must fly within 500 meters (1,640 feet) of yourself.
  • You may only fly your drone if it is clearly marked with your name, address, and telephone number.

    https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-433/FullText.html#s-900.01

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Wildthing

Well-known member
#10
All I know is I can fly any size of plane or quad at the club with a max height limit as long as I am a member of MAAC and the club, the club will not allow you to fly if you are not members of both.
 

ElectriSean

Eternal Student
Mentor
#11
SFOC states: "You do not need this certificate if: your drone weighs under 25 kg."
Online exam states: "Foreign residents are not eligible to register or operate a drone in Canada. If you are a foreign resident and wish to operate a drone in Canada, you must apply for a Special Flight Operations Certificate."

It's an endless loop! Twilight Zone!
I think the under 25kg bit is just for citizens/permanent residents. Unless you're doing extremely stupid stuff or actually cause damage or harm to property or people nobody is going to do or say anything.