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Question about shrinking ft plans

#1
I was wondering if i can reduce the plans for the ft-3d and ft cruiser, and use a smaller motor.
I want a smaller plane since my room isn't that big and these birds are taking up half my room lol
 

FlyingMonkey

Stuck in Sunny FL
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#2
I think the best way to try to do that is convert them to a profile design. It might be hard trying to reduce the boxed in frames.
 
#3
yeah that's what i was thinking too. I was thinking of just not making it swappable so i don't have to worry about that extra step.

i can just print the design maybe 80% on the pdf when i print it, and try that. I'm just scared the flying characteristics will be much different even if it's just scaled down
 

Liemavick

New member
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#4
As Chad and Josh have said these designs are to get people started in the hobby.
Trying your own experiments is half the fun. A smaller plane would just use smaller motor (weight) and battery. I say go for it and have fun.
 

OutcastZeroOne

Fly, yes... Land, no
#6
you shouldnt have too much issue with simply printing the plans out at a smaller size. the only issue I see is weight. You may find the wing loading (weight of plane to the area of the wing) is too great. You may have to remove the paper from the Readi-Board to balance things out. I know the paper adds a lot of regidity to the foam but it is also very heavy and can come off very easy if it gets wet. You may want to consider removing the paper from the inside surfaces to reduce the weight of the plane, but keep it on outside to keep that regidity. Just be warned that if you remove the paper from only one side the foam sometimes wants to curl a bit. Once everything is glued together it shouldnt be an issue though.
 

xuzme720

Dedicated foam bender
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#8
You can go with a 3mm depron which will keep it lighter, and a profile build as FM suggested will shed a bit more weight. You will need to tape the hinges instead and I wouldn't use hot glue but UHU POR or even Gorilla glue to keep it as light as possible. you could probably go to 60% or even 50% if you're very careful about the weight and electronics you put in it...
 
#9
I have built Spitfires at 80% using 3mm foam and a 2812 motor and they fly beautifully, actually better than the 100% IMO
 

Bolvon72

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#10
A thought, and mind you I have never tried this, would be to take the paper off one side of the foam (inside of wings/fuselage). You would maintain some rigidity, reduce weight, and i think it would be sturdy enough considering the reduced surface area. I may give this a shot with the Spitfire myself, put that damnable blue wonder in my parts bin to use.
 
#11
Scaling to 60% is a perfect fit for 3mm Depron of you want to go that small and have access to 3mm foam. I've built 11 planes so far using a 60% power pod. Check out the 55% Mini Racer thread for my power systems.

Cheers!
Randall
 

ofiesens2

Professional noob
#12
A problem I can think of is that when you scale down the size to 70% or 80% then the fuselage will be thinner, not allowing the standard power pod to fit correctly.
 

DH.98

New member
#15
I have also built a 65% Old Fogey (simply scaled down the pdf plans) out of 3mm depron and put a 10g motor on it. It just weights 120g with battery and as I have increased the wingspan it can fly really slowly but I still have to put a bigger rudder on it because it flies so slowly that the rudder doesn't make any effect.