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Quad Not Arming Correctly HELP!!!!

W01fZ

New member
#1
So, I've been flying my x:bolt 250 drone LOS for a bit now but I've always had an unusual problem, when i arm my drone, i have to 1st: turn on the drone and wait for receiver to start flashing. 2: hold power and bind button on my tx / wait for it to bind 3. by this point its binded and if i flick the switch any way, it doesn't work so i have to turn off the tx with the arming switch engaged then the props spin when i turn off the tx. and finally, 4: turn the tx back on and off i go with full control (and yes the arming switch works when i want to disarm the quad)
please please please help me with this, this is my last issue (so far) and im so close to a perfectly working quad

Equipment:
x:bolt 250 drone
Lux v2 FC
Spektrum quad racing reciever w/ diversity
DX6e TX
 

ElectriSean

Eternal Student
Mentor
#2
Your receiver is going into bind mode every time you power it before the transmitter. Once you're bound, always power up the transmitter (with the correct model selected) before plugging in the copter.
 

W01fZ

New member
#3
ok i did this and i got it to bind successfully the first time by turning on tx first, then the drone, but my problem still persists :/ heres the video i took.
 

Bricks

Well-known member
#4
Does the receiver 4648 have the separate bind plug like the 4649T if it does you are not leaving the bind plug in? Did you try and bind the receiver thru which ever fly app you are using?
 

W01fZ

New member
#5
nope I have the Spektrum RC DSMX Quad Race Receiver w/Diversity which doesn't use a bind plug. and you mean in betaflight manually set the receiver to a bind mode?
 

makattack

Winter is coming
Moderator
Mentor
#6
Did you connect the flight controller (you mentioned you're using the LUXv2) to either betaflight or cleanflight configurator (whichever version you are using) to check the RC channels and ranges are all correct and calibrated? Did you also calibrate the throttle range (unless you're using DSHOT) after checking your RC channels?
 

W01fZ

New member
#7
yep i went through all of this, flight modes are aux 1 and arming switch is aux 2, they both show up when i move those switches, I've calibrated my throttle, yaw, pitch, roll. ive gone through all the calibration steps.
 

makattack

Winter is coming
Moderator
Mentor
#8
So, all channels 1-4 (including throttle) have 1000 as minimum values and 2000 as max values?

From the motor tab in the configurator, can you start the motors individually or all at once with the master slider?

If you have different flight modes, (assuming horizon, angle) then you must have the accelerometer enabled. Did you calibrate the acc on a leveled platform as well?
 

Bricks

Well-known member
#10
nope I have the Spektrum RC DSMX Quad Race Receiver w/Diversity which doesn't use a bind plug. and you mean in betaflight manually set the receiver to a bind mode?
Yes

What flight board do you have there are some F4 boards that have problems binding Spektrum satellite receivers. Did you do a google search with your flight controller and binding issues to Spektrum?
 
#11
Yes

What flight board do you have there are some F4 boards that have problems binding Spektrum satellite receivers. Did you do a google search with your flight controller and binding issues to Spektrum?
I’ve been doing as much research I can and I can’t find this happening to anyone else! It’s a f3 board and I don’t think it has to do with binding, it binds just fine, just won’t arm until I run off the transmitter :(
 

makattack

Winter is coming
Moderator
Mentor
#12
Had another look at your video. It's quite unusual to have your "disarm" switch to be in the "towards you" position. Most TX's including the old/ancient Spektrum DX6i I have use the switch position of "away from you" as the default position.

Most people use the "default position" to be the "disarmed" position if using switch arming. This is generally safest and works normally because most transmitters have a "switch warning" when you first power it up, if the switches are not in the default (away from you) position with throttle at it's lowest position.

I'm not familiar with the DX6e you have, since it's newer than my DX6i, but I suspect it's using the same model. I'm sure you can override that behavior, but if you haven't, my guess is that's the cause of your problem.

If your switches aren't in the default position, when you power on the TX, there's a good chance the radio / transceiver part isn't powered or transmitting.

I personally would reprogram your arm switch to be "towards you" to arm -- You can either do that from betaflight config or from the TX, probably by reversing that channel.

I suppose if you didn't want to change the config, you could always make sure all switches are in their default (down/away from you) position, throttle at lowest, turn on the TX, then set the switch to the up/towards you position for disarm.
 
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#13
Had another look at your video. It's quite unusual to have your "disarm" switch to be in the "towards you" position. Most TX's including the old/ancient Spektrum DX6i I have use the switch position of "away from you" as the default position.

Most people use the "default position" to be the "disarmed" position if using switch arming. This is generally safest and works normally because most transmitters have a "switch warning" when you first power it up, if the switches are not in the default (away from you) position with throttle at it's lowest position.

I'm not familiar with the DX6e you have, since it's newer than my DX6i, but I suspect it's using the same model. I'm sure you can override that behavior, but if you haven't, my guess is that's the cause of your problem.

If your switches aren't in the default position, when you power on the TX, there's a good chance the radio / transceiver part isn't powered or transmitting.

I personally would reprogram your arm switch to be "towards you" to arm -- You can either do that from betaflight config or from the TX, probably by reversing that channel.

I suppose if you didn't want to change the config, you could always make sure all switches are in their default (down/away from you) position, throttle at lowest, turn on the TX, then set the switch to the up/towards you position for disarm.
Ok thank you so much! I’ll go try and switch that and I’ll let y’all know if that works!!
 
#14
Ok I reversed the arming switch in beta flight but I’m still having the same issue as before, but the arming switch is in the correct position now :/
 

makattack

Winter is coming
Moderator
Mentor
#15
Ok, can you record one more video of the rc / remote tab on betaflight configurator that shows all the rc channels. Then go through all the full range of stick and switch movements while recording how the bars move as you move the sticks and switches? Do this with the normal turn on tx, power up quad sequence. Then also post the cli configuration dump either as an attachment or inline here.
 
#17
here's the config dump for yall


# dump
# Betaflight / LUXV2_RACE 3.1.7 Apr 3 2017 / 22:09:37 (e1c4b5c)
name -
resource BEEPER 1 B09
resource MOTOR 1 C07
resource MOTOR 2 C06
resource MOTOR 3 C08
resource MOTOR 4 C09
resource MOTOR 5 NONE
resource MOTOR 6 NONE
resource MOTOR 7 NONE
resource MOTOR 8 NONE
resource MOTOR 9 NONE
resource MOTOR 10 NONE
resource MOTOR 11 NONE
resource MOTOR 12 NONE
resource SERVO 1 NONE
resource SERVO 2 NONE
resource SERVO 3 NONE
resource SERVO 4 NONE
resource SERVO 5 NONE
resource SERVO 6 NONE
resource SERVO 7 NONE
resource SERVO 8 NONE
resource PPM 1 A08
resource PWM 1 NONE
resource PWM 2 NONE
resource PWM 3 NONE
resource PWM 4 NONE
resource PWM 5 NONE
resource PWM 6 NONE
resource PWM 7 NONE
resource PWM 8 NONE
resource LED_STRIP 1 A06
resource SERIAL_TX 1 C04
resource SERIAL_TX 2 A14
resource SERIAL_TX 3 B10
resource SERIAL_TX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 11 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 12 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 1 C05
resource SERIAL_RX 2 A15
resource SERIAL_RX 3 B11
resource SERIAL_RX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 11 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 12 NONE
mixer QUADX

mmix reset

mmix 0 1.000 -1.000 1.000 -1.000
mmix 1 1.000 -1.000 -1.000 1.000
mmix 2 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
mmix 3 1.000 1.000 -1.000 -1.000
servo 0 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 1 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 2 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 3 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 4 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 5 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 6 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 7 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
smix reset


feature -RX_PPM
feature -VBAT
feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
feature -RX_SERIAL
feature -MOTOR_STOP
feature -SERVO_TILT
feature -SOFTSERIAL
feature -GPS
feature -FAILSAFE
feature -SONAR
feature -TELEMETRY
feature -CURRENT_METER
feature -3D
feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
feature -RX_MSP
feature -RSSI_ADC
feature -LED_STRIP
feature -DISPLAY
feature -OSD
feature -BLACKBOX
feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
feature -TRANSPONDER
feature -AIRMODE
feature -SDCARD
feature -VTX
feature -RX_SPI
feature -SOFTSPI
feature -ESC_SENSOR
feature -FEATURE_ANTI_GRAVITY
feature VBAT
feature RX_SERIAL
feature TELEMETRY
feature BLACKBOX
feature SDCARD
beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED
beeper RX_LOST
beeper RX_LOST_LANDING
beeper DISARMING
beeper ARMING
beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX
beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW
beeper BAT_LOW
beeper GPS_STATUS
beeper RX_SET
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL
beeper READY_BEEP
beeper MULTI_BEEPS
beeper DISARM_REPEAT
beeper ARMED
beeper SYSTEM_INIT
beeper ON_USB
map TAER1234
serial 20 1 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 0 0 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 0 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 2 0 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 3 64 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 4 0 115200 57600 0 115200
led 0 0,0::C:0
led 1 0,0::C:0
led 2 0,0::C:0
led 3 0,0::C:0
led 4 0,0::C:0
led 5 0,0::C:0
led 6 0,0::C:0
led 7 0,0::C:0
led 8 0,0::C:0
led 9 0,0::C:0
led 10 0,0::C:0
led 11 0,0::C:0
led 12 0,0::C:0
led 13 0,0::C:0
led 14 0,0::C:0
led 15 0,0::C:0
led 16 0,0::C:0
led 17 0,0::C:0
led 18 0,0::C:0
led 19 0,0::C:0
led 20 0,0::C:0
led 21 0,0::C:0
led 22 0,0::C:0
led 23 0,0::C:0
led 24 0,0::C:0
led 25 0,0::C:0
led 26 0,0::C:0
led 27 0,0::C:0
led 28 0,0::C:0
led 29 0,0::C:0
led 30 0,0::C:0
led 31 0,0::C:0
color 0 0,0,0
color 1 0,255,255
color 2 0,0,255
color 3 30,0,255
color 4 60,0,255
color 5 90,0,255
color 6 120,0,255
color 7 150,0,255
color 8 180,0,255
color 9 210,0,255
color 10 240,0,255
color 11 270,0,255
color 12 300,0,255
color 13 330,0,255
color 14 0,0,0
color 15 0,0,0
mode_color 0 0 1
mode_color 0 1 11
mode_color 0 2 2
mode_color 0 3 13
mode_color 0 4 10
mode_color 0 5 3
mode_color 1 0 5
mode_color 1 1 11
mode_color 1 2 3
mode_color 1 3 13
mode_color 1 4 10
mode_color 1 5 3
mode_color 2 0 10
mode_color 2 1 11
mode_color 2 2 4
mode_color 2 3 13
mode_color 2 4 10
mode_color 2 5 3
mode_color 3 0 8
mode_color 3 1 11
mode_color 3 2 4
mode_color 3 3 13
mode_color 3 4 10
mode_color 3 5 3
mode_color 4 0 7
mode_color 4 1 11
mode_color 4 2 3
mode_color 4 3 13
mode_color 4 4 10
mode_color 4 5 3
mode_color 5 0 9
mode_color 5 1 11
mode_color 5 2 2
mode_color 5 3 13
mode_color 5 4 10
mode_color 5 5 3
mode_color 6 0 6
mode_color 6 1 10
mode_color 6 2 1
mode_color 6 3 0
mode_color 6 4 0
mode_color 6 5 2
mode_color 6 6 3
mode_color 6 7 6
mode_color 6 8 0
mode_color 6 9 0
mode_color 6 10 0
mode_color 7 0 3
aux 0 0 1 1025 1325
aux 1 28 0 1700 1950
aux 2 1 0 1400 1600
aux 3 2 0 1075 1300
aux 4 0 0 900 900
aux 5 0 0 900 900
aux 6 0 0 900 900
aux 7 0 0 900 900
aux 8 0 0 900 900
aux 9 0 0 900 900
aux 10 0 0 900 900
aux 11 0 0 900 900
aux 12 0 0 900 900
aux 13 0 0 900 900
aux 14 0 0 900 900
aux 15 0 0 900 900
aux 16 0 0 900 900
aux 17 0 0 900 900
aux 18 0 0 900 900
aux 19 0 0 900 900
adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0
rxrange 0 1000 2000
rxrange 1 1000 2000
rxrange 2 1000 2000
rxrange 3 1000 2000
rxfail 0 a
rxfail 1 a
rxfail 2 a
rxfail 3 a
rxfail 4 h
rxfail 5 h
rxfail 6 h
rxfail 7 h
rxfail 8 h
rxfail 9 h
rxfail 10 h
rxfail 11 h
rxfail 12 h
rxfail 13 h
rxfail 14 h
rxfail 15 h
rxfail 16 h
rxfail 17 h
set task_statistics = ON
set mid_rc = 1500
set min_check = 1000
set max_check = 2000
set rssi_channel = 0
set rssi_scale = 30
set rc_interp = AUTO
set rc_interp_ch = RP
set rc_interp_int = 19
set rssi_invert = OFF
set input_filtering_mode = OFF
set fpv_mix_degrees = 0
set max_aux_channels = 14
set debug_mode = NONE
set min_throttle = 1055
set max_throttle = 2000
set min_command = 1000
set digital_idle_percent = 4.500
set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
set 3d_neutral = 1460
set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
set use_unsynced_pwm = OFF
set motor_pwm_protocol = ONESHOT125
set motor_pwm_rate = 480
set disarm_kill_switch = ON
set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF
set auto_disarm_delay = 5
set small_angle = 25
set fixedwing_althold_dir = 1
set reboot_character = 82
set serial_update_rate_hz = 100
set gps_provider = NMEA
set gps_sbas_mode = AUTO
set gps_auto_config = ON
set gps_auto_baud = OFF
set gps_wp_radius = 200
set nav_controls_heading = ON
set nav_speed_min = 100
set nav_speed_max = 300
set nav_slew_rate = 30
set beeper_inversion = ON
set beeper_od = OFF
set serialrx_provider = SPEK2048
set sbus_inversion = ON
set spektrum_sat_bind = 0
set spektrum_sat_bind_autorst = 1
set tlm_switch = OFF
set tlm_inversion = ON
set sport_halfduplex = ON
set frsky_default_lat = 0.000
set frsky_default_long = 0.000
set frsky_gps_format = 0
set frsky_unit = IMPERIAL
set frsky_vfas_precision = 0
set frsky_vfas_cell_voltage = OFF
set hott_alarm_int = 5
set pid_in_tlm = OFF
set bat_capacity = 0
set vbat_scale = 110
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 43
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 33
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 35
set vbat_hysteresis = 1
set ibat_scale = 400
set ibat_offset = 0
set mwii_ibat_output = OFF
set current_meter_type = ADC
set battery_meter_type = ADC
set bat_detect_thresh = 55
set use_vbat_alerts = ON
set use_cbat_alerts = OFF
set cbat_alert_percent = 10
set align_gyro = DEFAULT
set align_acc = DEFAULT
set align_mag = DEFAULT
set align_board_roll = 0
set align_board_pitch = 0
set align_board_yaw = 0
set gyro_lpf = OFF
set gyro_sync_denom = 1
set gyro_isr_update = OFF
set gyro_use_32khz = OFF
set gyro_lowpass_type = PT1
set gyro_lowpass = 90
set gyro_notch1_hz = 400
set gyro_notch1_cut = 300
set gyro_notch2_hz = 200
set gyro_notch2_cut = 100
set moron_threshold = 48
set imu_dcm_kp = 2500
set imu_dcm_ki = 0
set alt_hold_deadband = 40
set alt_hold_fast_change = ON
set deadband = 0
set yaw_deadband = 0
set thr_corr_value = 0
set thr_corr_angle = 800
set yaw_control_direction = 1
set yaw_motor_direction = 1
set servo_center_pulse = 1500
set tri_unarmed_servo = ON
set servo_lowpass_hz = 400
set servo_lowpass = OFF
set servo_pwm_rate = 50
set gimbal_mode = NORMAL
set channel_forwarding_start = 4
set airmode_start_throttle = 1350
set failsafe_delay = 10
set failsafe_off_delay = 10
set failsafe_throttle = 1000
set failsafe_kill_switch = OFF
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
set failsafe_procedure = DROP
set rx_min_usec = 885
set rx_max_usec = 2115
set acc_hardware = AUTO
set acc_lpf_hz = 10
set accxy_deadband = 40
set accz_deadband = 40
set acc_unarmedcal = ON
set acc_trim_pitch = 0
set acc_trim_roll = 0
set pid_process_denom = 4
set blackbox_rate_num = 1
set blackbox_rate_denom = 1
set blackbox_device = SDCARD
set blackbox_on_motor_test = OFF
set ledstrip_visual_beeper = OFF
set sdcard_dma = ON
set displayport_msp_col_adjust = 0
set displayport_msp_row_adjust = 0
profile 2

set gps_pos_p = 15
set gps_pos_i = 0
set gps_pos_d = 0
set gps_posr_p = 34
set gps_posr_i = 14
set gps_posr_d = 53
set gps_nav_p = 25
set gps_nav_i = 33
set gps_nav_d = 83
set pidsum_limit = 0.500
set pidsum_limit_yaw = 0.500
set d_lowpass_type = BIQUAD
set d_lowpass = 100
set d_notch_hz = 260
set d_notch_cut = 160
set vbat_pid_gain = OFF
set pid_at_min_throttle = ON
set anti_gravity_thresh = 350
set anti_gravity_gain = 3.000
set setpoint_relax_ratio = 100
set d_setpoint_weight = 60
set yaw_accel_limit = 10.000
set accel_limit = 0.000
set iterm_windup = 50
set yaw_lowpass = 0
set p_pitch = 58
set i_pitch = 50
set d_pitch = 35
set p_roll = 44
set i_roll = 40
set d_roll = 30
set p_yaw = 70
set i_yaw = 45
set d_yaw = 20
set p_alt = 50
set i_alt = 0
set d_alt = 0
set p_level = 50
set i_level = 50
set d_level = 100
set p_vel = 55
set i_vel = 55
set d_vel = 75
set level_sensitivity = 55
set level_limit = 55
rateprofile 0
rateprofile 0

set rc_rate = 100
set rc_rate_yaw = 100
set rc_expo = 0
set rc_yaw_expo = 0
set thr_mid = 50
set thr_expo = 0
set roll_srate = 70
set pitch_srate = 70
set yaw_srate = 70
set tpa_rate = 10
set tpa_breakpoint = 1650
 

PsyBorg

Wake up! Time to fly!
#18
set_min_check should be like 1005 or 1010 at the lowest. If you set your end points properly at 1000 Min check will not allow it to arm because you are not below that threshold 1000 set with that value. I would also reset Set max_check back to the default 1900 and see what that gets you.