Three Dimensional Flying with a Two Dimensional Plane!

Headbang

Master member
Sorry I kind of dropped the ball on this, life happened, then covid.

Learned recently the cg is marked too far back for novice pilots, when I move a 3s 850mah battery forward an inch, less accomplished pilots have better success with it.
 

mayan

Legendary member
Bringing this thread back to life after a long time. I just got a bunch of guys on a WhatsApp group I am on to build this model so I am going to build it myself once again. this time with more 3D flying experience.
 

MaxTheFliteFreak

Active member
Bringing this thread back to life after a long time. I just got a bunch of guys on a WhatsApp group I am on to build this model so I am going to build it myself once again. this time with more 3D flying experience.
I am also in this Whatsapp group. Would be cool to get a lot of the guys in it to all build this or a different airframe and we can possibly make a fleet of them. Formation flying would be so cool.
 
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mayan

Legendary member
Here is how my new build came out along side some pictures from the build process. A video of the entire process including the maiden will hopefully be posted in the next few days.

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FlyBreakFixFly

New member
Bumpity bump!

Thank you Headbang for the design! It's indeed a great flyer and a fun plane. Mine went together quickly despite a few mistakes that ultimately didn't affect anything.

Mine is using a 2206 1500 kV motor, 8x4.5 slow fly prop, 20 amp ESC, 500 mAh 3S batteries and mini servos. So far it has plenty of authority and lots of vertical. The power system was originally meant for a Value Hobby profile plane that turned into a wall decoration.
 

RossFPV

Well-known member
Bumpity bump!

Thank you Headbang for the design! It's indeed a great flyer and a fun plane. Mine went together quickly despite a few mistakes that ultimately didn't affect anything.

Mine is using a 2206 1500 kV motor, 8x4.5 slow fly prop, 20 amp ESC, 500 mAh 3S batteries and mini servos. So far it has plenty of authority and lots of vertical. The power system was originally meant for a Value Hobby profile plane that turned into a wall decoration.
Well this is a coincidence, i printed the fuselage plans yesterday!
 

Slatroni

New member
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Check out the background. That's a 60% TF 3D. It used a A flight pack and ripped! Totaled it out on the first flight.
 

FlyBreakFixFly

New member
I already ran two batteries through mine. Somehow I didn't catch that the rudder needed reversing, so attempting knife edges got interesting until I noticed that! I also learned how best to hand launch it. The nose is a bit floppy already. Skewer time...

This plane is perfect for the space I have next door. It's not too fast and is super responsive. When it gets too floppy I'm building another.
 

FlyBreakFixFly

New member
I'm making another with a tweak. The paper on the foamboard is ripping easily. This time around I'm stripping the paper off the fuselage and laminating it with heat-shrunk cellophane. It'll be cut away from the areas where the electronics attach. That will stiffen up the fuse while having some give when I crash.
 

FlyBreakFixFly

New member
Bumpity bump.

I made another but to exact plans and lighter weight than my first one. Namely omitting some paper and using much less hot glue. Turned out I needed to dial the rates way down and add a ton of expo. My electronics were for an EPP flattie, not this. So with the new lower rates this plane went from a very curious squirrel on speed to a responsive and controllable plane. It even got better flight time since I didn't feel the need to run lots of throttle to get out of trouble. Half throttle was plenty with full giving unlimited vertical. Looking forward to learning more!
 

FlyBreakFixFly

New member
Still using this plane to improve my 3D skills. I had a few good flights on it yesterday getting used to it in a light breeze. 3S is way too much power, just as a 3D plane should have. Can't say enough good about this design!
 

FlyBreakFixFly

New member
Aaaaaaaaaand.....

This one got totaled. So the third airframe is on the workbench. This time I'm committed to using heat-shrunk cellophane on the fuse. Turned out I had a sheet of white and a sheet of black DTFB. The wing got the white while the fuse is finally getting cellophane wrapped now that the black paper is ripped off both sides. So it's a bit of a hybrid in construction.
 

tetraodontoxin

New member
Not unusual for an FT Forum Family post, but I've been inspired. Again. I am going to attempt to design a foamboard profile plane, capable of 3d flight with an F-pack and 3s batt.

Why? Because I want one! :p I want a super easy, super cheap, 3d capable plane that I don't have to worry about crashing. I want to be able to go from complete fuselage destruction to back in the air with very little time, money or effort. With the profile design, it seems like the simple, laminated fuse would take all the damage and will be easily repaired or replaced. The solid, fold-over wing will simply tear through the fuse in a crash, and likely take little damage.

For simplicity of design, I'm considering using the FT 3d wing and tail. A profile fuselage that is simply cut out and laminated three sheets thick. I've got to work out how to mount EVERYTHING to the fuse. I think I can do that.

Carbon rods are still exotic in my book. I know you can buy arrows and cut them up and all that. I'm thinking just some wooden dowels I can get from Walmart for a buck and a half embedded between the three fuse layers for strength. Maybe even one cut into the center and then the two sides laminated over it. It's a work in progress. ;)

I'll be working on this project in between other projects and life in general. It may not get much love all of the time. It's something I want to see to fruition, though. Besides. @SquirrelTail has agreed to help! :D He may be young, but that kid KNOWS 3d! :love:
Hardwood or softwood? Like oak or pine? I’ve been wanting to use dowels for edge reinforcement, I would say a good sized control surface would a good idea, and good reinforcement to take the punishment. 3D flying is insane and inspiring!
 

tetraodontoxin

New member
Hardwood or softwood? Like oak or pine? I’ve been wanting to use dowels for edge reinforcement, I would say a good sized control surface would a good idea, and good reinforcement to take the punishment. 3D flying is insane and inspiring!
Whoops didn’t mean to reply to a post from so long ago!
 

kingfieldbill

New member
I was intrigued by this and am always looking for new things to build and fly so I built one of these. Flies amazing. My son loved it too so I built a second one. Broke mine in a crash so i built a third. i added a 2.5 mm and 1 mm carbon rod the length of the fuse and a single 2.5mm rod in the wing. I just nosed in pretty hard with it and the only damage was a broken prop. I'm not a 3d flyer (yet) so I can't say if I've overweigted it for that but it's a heck of a good time flying as a traditional aerobatic plane. It' my new grab and go plane.
 

Piotrsko

Master member
Old day rule of thumb: if you point it nose up and it can helicopter up to altitude, it has just enough power. Having said that, you can never have enough thrust.

We also used to describe them as flying control surfaces