A plane question for quad people - tiny motors & ESCs

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Yeah That... Is... Nuts. Nano stuff. Crazy!
Makes me think of those guys flying at a crawl in a gymnasium with an audience.
But yeah, I don't want to like change hobbies here. Just buy a really small battery! :p
I'll look more into it but maybe for now it's looking like 110X motors and 2S.
 
Haha just like @PsyBorg said before I begged him to reconsider. :D
Anyway I don't care to make a 16" wingspan that'll fly away like a paper napkin. But I've got a smallish park a block away, if I had a slower flyer, or small & nimble, I could try flying there. Not quite enough room for a more normal plane.

And the 0802s work just fine on 2S too.
 

LitterBug

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Haha just like @PsyBorg said before I begged him to reconsider. :D
Anyway I don't care to make a 16" wingspan that'll fly away like a paper napkin. But I've got a smallish park a block away, if I had a slower flyer, or small & nimble, I could try flying there. Not quite enough room for a more normal plane.

And the 0802s work just fine on 2S too.
You should try them on 6S! ;)
 

LitterBug

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These are the motors I'm going to use on my FT Dart (should I ever get back to wrkn on it. Have a pair for my VAS Ghost as well. They are some of my biggest 110x motors and have "bolt on" props for more abuse.
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Got it. So it looks like you either use 2S or try to use 1s and add a booster of a couple grams more. Well anyway, 2s is still tiny.

I think the <5v aspect of 1S is going to be a problem with basically every piece of gear you try to use. It's easily possible to build a 2s or 3s model well within the 250 gram limit. Most of the 1S models like tinywhoops are designed as one fully-integrated package so the electronics designers are planning on <5v everywhere from the start.
 

LitterBug

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I think the <5v aspect of 1S is going to be a problem with basically every piece of gear you try to use. It's easily possible to build a 2s or 3s model well within the 250 gram limit. Most of the 1S models like tinywhoops are designed as one fully-integrated package so the electronics designers are planning on <5v everywhere from the start.
Excellent point. The linear servos are rated 3.2-4.2v, so if you are running 2s, you may have to drop the voltage. I have not checked online to see if people have run them @5v
 
I think the <5v aspect of 1S is going to be a problem with basically every piece of gear you try to use. It's easily possible to build a 2s or 3s model well within the 250 gram limit. Most of the 1S models like tinywhoops are designed as one fully-integrated package so the electronics designers are planning on <5v everywhere from the start.
I hear that. For sure. Thx.
I'm zeroing in on 2S and I guess an 110X motor.
I think one of the things that's turning me on to this direction is I can experiment more with quick & dirty builds without them being too precious. Canards, tandems, various twin options, pushers... It's not so intimidating at this size. There's less at risk.
 

LitterBug

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Yeah, unless you are going for uber light weight, I would stick with 2S and up. The nano FrSky RXes will do 1-2 S with no voltage regulation. You could use a 3.3v Bec to run the electronics to be able to flip flop. The thing to remember is Watt Hour capacity will weigh the same. So if you were going to run a 800 Mah 1s battery, you could run a 400mah 2s battery and have the same WH rating at roughly the same weight.
 
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LitterBug

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Well then you're going in a VTOL direction with that, right?

Well, in the example yes, but on a plane, you could use it for yaw control. Heck, if you are running 2 motors, you could do them instead of elevons and do pitch and roll, then use a yaw mix on the two motors to do yaw. Just thinkin outside the box here and presenting "options" :)