Bloody Wonder MkIII - Build

donalson

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@Craftydan prefers his Bloody Wonders bright PINK! :p

so this is happening... also have florecent green... think that'll go on the bottom and I'll do opposing speed stripes (green stripes on top, pink stripes on bottom)... also debating on what to do with the control surfaces...

also have some florescent orange but it's too close to the pink me thinks... also think these will be used on my sparrow and prob a few others...

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Absolutely love this version. As mentioned above it's incredibly strong and flies great!
 

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donalson

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where we sit now... the photo came out more red/orange than the neon/florescent pink that it is.... I now plan to paint the control surfaces the opposite color... so green on top and pink on bottom... should be easy to see in combat

also on the bottom you can see the HUGE "skewers"... they are chopsticks I got the last time I ate out at a Chinese place... that is the one issue I had with my bloody brit is them snapping (er and the firewall collapsing because I didn't use the X mounts which distribute the load)...

the control horns from FT just came in so I can finish it up... prob will happen tomm as I have the day off

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donalson

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oh also a question to Spoonz... why are the locator cuts on the horizontal stabilizers not red (don't cut all the way though) type cuts also?... seems it would clean up the looks a bit... but I didn't think about it until after I'd cut everything out.
 

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oh also a question to Spoonz... why are the locator cuts on the horizontal stabilizers not red (don't cut all the way though) type cuts also?... seems it would clean up the looks a bit... but I didn't think about it until after I'd cut everything out.

Good question/point. I will add a note to make those cavities on the opposite side vs. cut through. Thanks for the feedback.
 

donalson

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and paint is done... control horns came in yesterday... I think i've got the two servos still kicking around...

I shouldn't have an issue seeing it in combat... I'm almost done with the bloody brit also... much more boring "sun yellow" with black stripes... 3ch this time instead of 2...

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donalson

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got out to maiden it... along with a few other planes... she's a peach... ran her on a 1050 prop...started on a 2700 2s... beautiful flight... more or less exactly what I expected having flown the B pack bloody brit (barron's brother)... a 3s is a good bit quicker but not sure if it's more fun... with maybe a little less stability because of the lack of undercamber wing at the end... the green was much less visible than I expected... but the pink control surfaces and big pink on the top made it VERY easy to keep orientation... should be nice in combat... also stable enough on low rates at 2s that I think my son will be able to fly it pretty quickly...
 

Browneye77

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Maybe I’ll write an assembly manual or sheet. I did not find videos - I’m old school, look at plans and instructions and then build, and can go back and look. Video is really inconvenient, you have to stop start, rewind, find again. Just no.

Evidently there’s a different folding process for the fuse - I put it together so the power pod fits in it, and the doublers on the outside. So then someone asked where they go and the reply was ‘inside’. I guess I’ll build another one. And then the tabs will fit in the wing - I just glued my fuse onto the wing.

I looked at the plans again and it still didn’t make sense. Once I cut parts out again maybe I can then see how it fits together with the doublers on the inside.
 

tamuct01

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Maybe I’ll write an assembly manual or sheet. I did not find videos - I’m old school, look at plans and instructions and then build, and can go back and look. Video is really inconvenient, you have to stop start, rewind, find again. Just no.

Evidently there’s a different folding process for the fuse - I put it together so the power pod fits in it, and the doublers on the outside. So then someone asked where they go and the reply was ‘inside’. I guess I’ll build another one. And then the tabs will fit in the wing - I just glued my fuse onto the wing.

I looked at the plans again and it still didn’t make sense. Once I cut parts out again maybe I can then see how it fits together with the doublers on the inside.
If the doublers didn't fit on the inside, the likely culprit is that you made an "A" fold in the fuselage instead of a "B" fold. The difference would account for the missing space on the inside of the folds. As Josh says, the "B" fold has the sides "beside" the base when folded, compared to an "A" fold where the sides go "above" the base. The type of fold required (and a convenient diagram) is printed on the plans.

I'd cut out another fuselage and try again. You can always test fold the pieces without glue to make sure that the fuse, doublers, and power pod will all fit together before you glue them up.
 

Browneye77

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If the doublers didn't fit on the inside, the likely culprit is that you made an "A" fold in the fuselage instead of a "B" fold. The difference would account for the missing space on the inside of the folds. As Josh says, the "B" fold has the sides "beside" the base when folded, compared to an "A" fold where the sides go "above" the base. The type of fold required (and a convenient diagram) is printed on the plans.

I'd cut out another fuselage and try again. You can always test fold the pieces without glue to make sure that the fuse, doublers, and power pod will all fit together before you glue them up.
I found the vid on the bloody baron as Sponz suggested - sure would have help to watch that BEFORE building. LOL
The plans are not clear enough on that - now that I understand it the diagrams make sense - initially they did not. And that’s why I asked for some kind of builder sheet. Oh well.

Same for the wing - my second one turned out great, the first one got cuts instead of scores, and the leading edge bevel on the wrong side. Just too butchered to use.

The problem with all these things new, just like building and flying helicopters, is you don’t know what you don’t know. There are references made to things and processes with unfamiliar terms, so it just doesn’t make any sense till you get thru it, then it all comes together. I spent a month and two crashes setting up a spektrum flybarless flight controller on a built 450 size helicopter. Again, terms used don’t make sense cuz you don’t know what they are or what stuff is supposed to do. It all makes perfect sense to the creators and designers, often that is difficult to convey. I know, I spent some time writing technical manuals for extremely complicated electronics. And I run a network tower and e-commerce site for a distribution company, so I know if I have trouble understanding the process then others have it worse. LOL I’ve been building flying models for sixty years, even do some scratch building, and compete in scale flying competition.

Anyway, I’m grateful for this resource and the airplanes are really neat. I got referred by an experienced flyer at our club, and we’re all going to a combat event a few towns over on Saturday. Should be fun. And the FT parts and pieces are top notch, it’s remarkable what can be done with cheap foam board.

Still glad I went down the rabbit hole!
 

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I found the vid on the bloody baron as Sponz suggested - sure would have help to watch that BEFORE building. LOL
The plans are not clear enough on that - now that I understand it the diagrams make sense - initially they did not. And that’s why I asked for some kind of builder sheet. Oh well.

Same for the wing - my second one turned out great, the first one got cuts instead of scores, and the leading edge bevel on the wrong side. Just too butchered to use.

The problem with all these things new, just like building and flying helicopters, is you don’t know what you don’t know. There are references made to things and processes with unfamiliar terms, so it just doesn’t make any sense till you get thru it, then it all comes together. I spent a month and two crashes setting up a spektrum flybarless flight controller on a built 450 size helicopter. Again, terms used don’t make sense cuz you don’t know what they are or what stuff is supposed to do. It all makes perfect sense to the creators and designers, often that is difficult to convey. I know, I spent some time writing technical manuals for extremely complicated electronics. And I run a network tower and e-commerce site for a distribution company, so I know if I have trouble understanding the process then others have it worse. LOL I’ve been building flying models for sixty years, even do some scratch building, and compete in scale flying competition.

Anyway, I’m grateful for this resource and the airplanes are really neat. I got referred by an experienced flyer at our club, and we’re all going to a combat event a few towns over on Saturday. Should be fun. And the FT parts and pieces are top notch, it’s remarkable what can be done with cheap foam board.

Still glad I went down the rabbit hole!
Did you read the assembly instructions in the first post of this thread? There are pics there too, but they got formatted much smaller after a forum update a few years back.
 

Browneye77

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Did you read the assembly instructions in the first post of this thread? There are pics there too, but they got formatted much smaller after a forum update a few years back.
Probly couldn’t see them on a phone. The vid on the bloody baron helped A LOT - thank you for that.
Building another one, will probly do a baron too - cool little airplane.

My second one is coming out MUCH nicer. Now I know what to expect and I quit being afraid of the foam. Slice and dice! LOL
 

Browneye77

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A few from our flying club attended a 'combat wombat' event last Saturday - what a hoot. Lots of FT enthusiasts and 75' streamers, lots of carnage. Boy oh boy what fun though.

I finally got my first build flying well, surprised at the aerobatics chasing the group, seems I'm flying way above my level with this plane.
My second build augured in right away - trims too far out, perhaps CG too far back, too unstable, should have cut the throttle and got it down, but it went in and destroyed the front end. Surprisingly the power pod survived well enough to be repaired, put it back in my flawed first build and was able to complete several flights over the event. We are using 3D printed firewalls with a box-channel type design that fits into the pod about an inch. Broke that up pretty bad but able to CA it back together and get it back on the front of the pod. New prop, blow out the dirt, and it was flying again.

I saw another vertical takeoff gone bad, not sure about this - everyone else in the event hand-launched, we flew 8-10 planes at a time.

All of the other flyers from our club destroyed their planes in mid-airs. The sponsoring club did a terrific job putting on the event. They were giving 100 points for a ribbon cut, and a hundred points to each party of a mid-air. I think the winner had over 600 points, with several cuts and at least one mid-air.

I have ordered more parts from fT - couple motors, some build parts, have built another BW MkIII and gave it to my buddy that crashed his, the one that got me into this. He brought two of them to the event, lent his spare out to another flyer which survived the event, and then a mid-air took his out in the last heat. We were all scrambling between heats fixing planes - I'm glad I brought a solar-genarator for charging, and to plug a hot-melt gun in, as well as CA and kicker, tools, etc. I had the whole crew at the tailgate fixing airplanes. Two of our guys won second and third in the event. I got zero points, but my air plane survived at least four heats.

Seems having an extra power-pod is key, they seem to get destroyed first in a crash. Wings can be taped, foam can be glued, but a broken power pod can take you out.

I made the mistake of getting a slightly larger ESC - a competing one from eflite - so it won't fit in the pod with a 2200mAh pack, so I mounted the ESC on the bottom of the pod, plenty of room to move the pack around inside for CG balance. Worked out swimmingly! LOL And no venting or cooling problem!

Going to build a couple more BW's, maybe some more FT designs. I really like the Jenny XL. And I have lots of spare parts from crashed planes, - motors, servos, RX's, etc. We will be making combat a regular part of our future club events - surely more will get involved.

We also fly indoors in winter, a club member is the wrestling coach at our local high school, so we have access to a 6-court gym on Sundays. Flying Twisted Hobbys super-lites taught me more about aerobatics and 3D than the whole year at the flying field. I took a concept they use for winglets and thought they would make a nice addition to my first BW. They worked out well enough, and finished off the open wing tip, I'm going to use them on future builds as well. Here's a couple pics...

Thanks for all the help here - a new era in RC for me. Sponz is dabomb!

Here you can see my first attempt at the fuse - doublers on the outside - now I understand the folding sequences and they're turning out much better. I also used two aileron servos under the wing on this one, then decided the single one on top per plans works just as well - even has built-in differential. They sure are sturdy, and they fly just fantastic! Unlimited vertical, super maneuverable.





 
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@Briwneye77 Glad your outing was a success. Sounds like a really great time.

VTO (vertical take-off) is a novelty with these. Looks cool when you pull it off, but hand launching is going to be more controlled/reliable.

The power pod was a big complaint for a lot of combat fliers. I designed a newer combat plane to that addressed some of the top issues with the Bloody Wonder and Bloody Baron designs. Check out the Sidewinder if you want another combat plane in your arsenal. That one comes with a complete build guide written by yours truly.
 

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@Briwneye77 Glad your outing was a success. Sounds like a really great time.

VTO (vertical take-off) is a novelty with these. Looks cool when you pull it off, but hand launching is going to be more controlled/reliable.

The power pod was a big complaint for a lot of combat fliers. I designed a newer combat plane to that addressed some of the top issues with the Bloody Wonder and Bloody Baron designs. Check out the Sidewinder if you want another combat plane in your arsenal. That one comes with a complete build guide written by yours truly.
Love the Sidewinder! Great design.
I built 2. One in stock form is a fast combat/play plane. The other, I added 12 inches to the wingspan, peeled about half the inner paper, and it glides like a Lazy Snake. (y)