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Pumpkin drop event

Help! Colonial Viper?

Good Project Build?

  • Not sure.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • To complicated. Don't try it.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .

buzzbomb

I know nothing!
#21
I'm actually thinking of doing this. I found a mod for the FT arrow and am building a test bird for the cockpit. The next test is to pull off the Battlestar Galactica rebooted versions black bird. Then I'm going to feel comfortable with moving onto the mark 2 version. I feel like it'll have to have wings that have been embellished a tad so I plan on taking some creative license with the design.
Oooh! You got it going on!
 

Piotrsko

Well-known member
#23
See told you about the roll troll tendencies. How about a multi axis gyro like the Heli people do? Then one engine, standard control surfaces, although a gyro with strong gain running the rudder should be enough to roll the ship by itself. 11 degrees is enough anhiederal, most people wont know it is off.
 
#24
See told you about the roll troll tendencies. How about a multi axis gyro like the Heli people do? Then one engine, standard control surfaces, although a gyro with strong gain running the rudder should be enough to roll the ship by itself. 11 degrees is enough anhiederal, most people wont know it is off.
Hey @Piotrsko and @Andrew I can see what you mean. KISS would be nice (Keep It Simple Stupid), But then I do like the big Floaty idea. Big Floaty CV-Mk I means I can do single pusher with 3 cans.

Years ago I still had my leftovers from my Shot Gunned bird. I had been screwing around with a A tail design angular Space/Air craft that the main wings had 3 positions. Vertical for storage like a Navy bird. Horizontal for normal take-off and landings. 22.5 % down pitch for high-speed and high maneuvered flight. Funny thing was, I never built her. But the guy I sold my pile of electronics did!
It flew! And it flew hot! This was years before gyros and stabilizers. Although he was a fighter pilot, I never got over seeing that crazy bird floating at level wing about 5 knots, go wings down and flat COOK! And then at full throttle hook a turn around me three times before I could blink, then snap skyward.
 

JennyC6

Well-known member
#25
If Flite Test has shown me anything it's that just about anything can fly if you give it enough power and some sort of control surface.

My concern with the viper, as much as I would like to see that is the lack of wing/control surface area.

That being said, there is one way to find out, build it and try to fly it, and with that in mind I say go for it!
My concern is less 'wing area' and more 'CG'. There's enough wing area present, especailly with three 70mm EDFs pushing it, for it to fly, but all the wing area is right on its arse end. Same issue the X-Wing has.

Clear canards may just be necessary for it.
 

Piotrsko

Well-known member
#26
My concern is less 'wing area' and more 'CG'. There's enough wing area present, especailly with three 70mm EDFs pushing it, for it to fly, but all the wing area is right on its arse end. Same issue the X-Wing has.

Clear canards may just be necessary for it.
NAAH, we were flying X-wings canardless without gyros or modern electronics back in '84. Basically a plank flying wing biplane.
Did have to use differential servo arms to the elevons that moved more up on the upper wing with no down, and ditto on the lower wing but backwards. Cg on a wing is just Cg no matter what is in front or behind.
 

JennyC6

Well-known member
#27
NAAH, we were flying X-wings canardless without gyros or modern electronics back in '84. Basically a plank flying wing biplane.
Did have to use differential servo arms to the elevons that moved more up on the upper wing with no down, and ditto on the lower wing but backwards. Cg on a wing is just Cg no matter what is in front or behind.
It's gonna be pretty damn hard to get the CG right and get control authority when the wings are right at the tail. Not impossible, but definitely not easy. ANd the X-Wing has a bit of an advantage in wing area compared to the Viper.

Easiest way to do it would be clear canards.
 
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#29
Well Flight friends and Fellow Cloud Huggers, Tree, Bush, Shrub, Grass and Mole Hill Trimmers! It seems I must put away my birds, but only a short while. The sun is coming, and I have a project for a co-workers Daughter that I must finish. This weekend will be filled with the joys of Black Paint in my White Hair, sorting, cleaning, prepping parts to rebuild a bike.