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Flite Fest 2022 Community Challenge – WWI “Dawn Patrol”
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Matagami Designs
Master member
Hey everyone. Since I decided I will be attending FF22 this year I wanted to try and knock out a build for the dawn patrol. So yeah a last second build and I'm not sure I will be able to get it done but here goes. I took plans for a Nieuport 28 into CAD and have made some progress and will hopefully get it onto the needle cutter early next week then begin the actual build. Before that though I have a few questions. What's the recommended power setup for a bird like this? I've never made anything quite this big so I don't want to underpower it yet don't want to make a rocket ship either. I have also never made a Biplane so I am concerned about the structure of the upper wing. What do you do to make sure these cabanes actually hold the upper wing to the rest of the plane under the High G maneuvers which I will undoubtedly attempt, assuming this actually ever takes to the skies? I'm guessing foam spars isn't enough so I will add some basswood doublers to reinforce the wings. The plans don't have anything for wing incidence so right now everything is planned for 0° is this going to be a problem? Any other pointers or things I should consider? Here is a screenshot to give an idea of what I am planning so far. 1/6th scale so 53" wingspan with a master series style construction. Still a lot to figure out with the cabanes, wing spar structure, landing gear and I think I will try to put a hatch on the bottom between the gear for battery access but just maybe I will get something put together.
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Welcome? LOL Glad to see you making the plunge this year. Best recommendation for a quick build at the last minute is just to go all-around 0 degrees of incidence. There's theory, practice, and what matters at our scale. While maybe not refined, it will be sufficient for the purposes here.
For struts, I just used BBQ skewers inside of FB but there have been other clever ideas on builds for this event. Have a look at those and see if something fits your style or supply drawer.
Some sort of structure will be good for the wing spars. My Tummelisa, while tight and agile, has some wing bending going on, partly from humidity, and partly from only having foam as a spar. Walmart CF arrow shafts are great for a situation like this... even at $7 a pop.
I think for power system folks have been generally going with something overpowered just to haver insurance as these kinds of designs do lend themselves to some sticky situations. I think a target of 125W/pound is a safe margin and I believe that is about in the power pack C range. This may be another point to note while referencing other builds.
The Fopster
Master member
Need to get some progress made this week as I’m away the weekend of FF22. So that means I’m looking at a very sketchy maiden this coming weekend. I suspect quite a few bits will be held together with tape! 😳
FlyerInStyle
Elite member
where are the wheels?
For those just now coming to the party and those who may have missed this, I will be selling these highly detailed 1/6 scale guns at FF Thursday and Friday nights at the STEM tent where we will congregate from 7-10 PM. I'm REALLY excited to see everyone's projects and I'm just as excited to see how they fly.
The Fopster
Master member
FlyerInStyle
Elite member
the pictures couldnt be found...
Amazeballs!
Ligbaer
50 Percenter
I know for a fact that im gonna win best crash, Im a pro crasher
The Fopster
Master member
I managed a maiden attempt of the Sopwith Pup in time for the big day - but a few thousand miles away. It was not a great success - but the plane is in one piece. Need to get the wings aligned properly and I’ll paint it before I go again - but I think it’ll fly. In the meantime here’s the first brief attempt. Second wasn’t caught on video but didn’t last much longer. Hope everyone got on OK at the big event!
In case you are not on Facebook, or you missed this...
This makes my soul smile!
Thank you to everyone, especially everyone who made the Dawn Patrol FF '22 such a great event. We are already talking about another (different) event like this for next year. Stay tuned...
This makes my soul smile!
Thank you to everyone, especially everyone who made the Dawn Patrol FF '22 such a great event. We are already talking about another (different) event like this for next year. Stay tuned...
The Fopster
Master member
Summer seems a while ago now, but the Sopwith Pup I was inspired to build by this thread is flying really nicely and I’ve got comfortable with it. I can even land it now - in this video dead stick!
Big thanks to everyone for the inspiration - it’s been a really rewarding thing to do, and it felt great today getting three perfect flights!
And yes - the hatch with the pilot in it does need stronger magnets. It’s on the to-do list, along with the rigging…
Big thanks to everyone for the inspiration - it’s been a really rewarding thing to do, and it felt great today getting three perfect flights!
And yes - the hatch with the pilot in it does need stronger magnets. It’s on the to-do list, along with the rigging…
mastermalpass
Master member
Don't know how I missed this one. Must've caught it at a bad time, made a note to check it later then forgot. What an awesome battle that was! Wish I could have been there.
Finally made a start on mine this weekend. Here's hoping I can get it flying before the year's up.
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