Help! Scale printing

[chickenhawk]

Is there a simple way to scale print tiled plans? I downloaded the tiled plans for the Master Series Corsair ( built a couple of them at standard size) But would now like to build a larger one ( 60 Inch wing span ) . On the download I told my printer to print at 130 scale but it just printed it at the stock size. Help LOL

 

[Merv]

Changing the print scale has always worked for me. It does mess up the spacing of the A & B folds.

 

[chickenhawk]

I tried again, same thing. I did see it says 39 pages to print, but when I change it to scale of 130 the number of pages does not change. To me when you change the scale the number of pages should go up, right?

 

[Merv]

Yes the page count should go up.
When I change the scale, I always use the 20x30 plans, not the tile plans. I select an area to print that makes sense, like a rudder or elevator. I try to minimize the number of pages that need to be joined.

 

[chickenhawk]

I got it, had to get 9 year old grandson to show me how to do it. But I sort of still fly better that he does . LOL

 

[mastermalpass]

I got it, had to get 9 year old grandson to show me how to do it. But I sort of still fly better that he does . LOL

You remind me of a guy I did Wing Chun with. I started aged 26 and was often paired with a 69 year old man who joined 3 months before me. He once remarked that I had managed to memorise the Form before he did... Thing is, I might be able to learn the patterns faster, but I could never land a hit on him in the training drills! 😂

 

[TheRealSeal]

Yes the page count should go up.
When I change the scale, I always use the 20x30 plans, not the tile plans. I select an area to print that makes sense, like a rudder or elevator. I try to minimize the number of pages that need to be joined.

I am having trouble with this. I think I understand how to use the full size planes and print using the poster setting which automatically tiles the printing for you, but when I scale up by 18%, the tiled page count more than doubles. Is there a more efficient way to do this?

 

[Merv]

...Is there a more efficient way to do this?

Are you using the full size ( 20x30) plans?
Don't use the plans that are already tiled.

 

[TheRealSeal]

Are you using the full size ( 20x30) plans?
Don't use the plans that are already tiled.

Yes, I am specifically working with the master series Mustang plans. The Tile A plans are quite efficient, using only 60 pages at 1:1 scale, but I want to scale the plans up to 118%. I am opening the files for the full size plans in Adobe. In the print menu I change it to the poster setting which puts the 20x30 plan onto a 22.5x44 print area at 100% scale, which already means it will take 96 pages to print the all 8 full size plans at 100%; much less efficient. When I scale up the tiling to 118%, it adds another row of pages, taking the total page count to 128.

I guess my question is, scaling up the 20x30 plans to 118% should still be able to fit the plans into a 22.5x44 or 3x4 page printing area so why does it need to bump it up to a 4x4 area with enormous margins? Can I not choose to keep tiled in a 3x4 area?

 

[Merv]

When I print plans, I will crop the area I want to print. I do this to minimize the number of pages that need to be taped back together. A rudder or elevator may print on a single page vs printing on 4 pages if Adobe chooses the page break. Wings often print on 4 pages vs 8.

Try scaling the plans to what you want, then crop & print the area you want. The wings are usually symmetrical, that is, you only need to print one of them.

 

[TheRealSeal]

When I print plans, I will crop the area I want to print. I do this to minimize the number of pages that need to be taped back together. A rudder or elevator may print on a single page vs printing on 4 pages if Adobe chooses the page break. Wings often print on 4 pages vs 8.

Try scaling the plans to what you want, then crop & print the area you want. The wings are usually symmetrical, that is, you only need to print one of them.

How do you crop after you scale it?

 

[Merv]

How do you crop after you scale it?

I use the select tool then crop.
Maybe you don't have access to it in your version.

 

[TheRealSeal]

I use the select tool then crop.
Maybe you don't have access to it in your version.

Ah, yes. I see that is one of the premium features.

 

[randyrls]

Yea; I know this is a bit old.
I take the full size full size PDF sheets and import them into InkScape then select and export the individual parts into another PDF sheet and save that sheet as a separate PDF sheet, then print the individual parts. It minimizes the number tiles I need to tape together.

There is a YouTube video that shows converting plans to gcode for "needle cutting" and it covers how to process a PDF sheet for doing this.

 

[TheRealSeal]

Yea; I know this is a bit old.
I take the full size full size PDF sheets and import them into InkScape then select and export the individual parts into another PDF sheet and save that sheet as a separate PDF sheet, then print the individual parts. It minimizes the number tiles I need to tape together.

There is a YouTube video that shows converting plans to gcode for "needle cutting" and it covers how to process a PDF sheet for doing this.

This sound more like what I am looking for. Do you have a link to the video?

 

[randyrls]

This is a link to the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ngSAn8qpM
You are likely interested only in the very first section of the video. James goes into details of using Inkscape and EstlCam to prepare foam board sheets for layout in a needle cutter.

If you are using a more recent version of InkScape, you can open all the pages at one time, but don't do that. Select only one page.

Lastly InkScape is a full featured program and there IS A STEEP LEARNING CURVE!!

 

[AIRFORGE]

This sound more like what I am looking for. Do you have a link to the video?

If you want to learn more about Inkscape Logos By Nick has more than enough videos on whatever you need. Highly recommended!

 

[randyrls]

Changing the print scale has always worked for me. It does mess up the spacing of the A & B folds.

Merv; If you open the PDF one sheet at a time, You can "move" the cut lines so they are still 5mm wide. I also made a "cutter" that slices a perfect 5mm wide slot. There are two versions; One uses ruler to cut two lines 5mm apart for slots. Two follows an outline so you can cut paper edges for gluing. https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/building-tips.74252/post-762263