Capt_Beavis
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It flies really nicely on a 3s 450mAh and a 5.1x4.5 APC prop.
Baby Baron - Build
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Thanks for all the great feedback on this design Capt.
I was looking for a small plane to replace my retried FT Scout, and was really taken by the baby baron! I built this one today while watching the Cricket...
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Just waiting on the 5g servos to finish it off
That looks pretty cool. The force is strong with that one!
JohnRambozo
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I accidentally posted this in the Blood Baron thread. I'll delete it to post here instead.
Baby Baron maiden using Emax 2204 / 2300kv and gemfan 6045 prop for a quadcopter. I think I could find a better prop for this setup. It a lot of fun but I'm flying 75% - 100% throttle here. Any recommendations? Like maybe a prop intended for airplanes?
I adjusted the aileron neutral position and it finally dawned on me I could easily add washout by just cutting the tips of the ailerons then hot gluing them with a little up angle. This should add stability with minimal drag... a bit like toe-in on a car.
Baby Baron maiden using Emax 2204 / 2300kv and gemfan 6045 prop for a quadcopter. I think I could find a better prop for this setup. It a lot of fun but I'm flying 75% - 100% throttle here. Any recommendations? Like maybe a prop intended for airplanes?
I adjusted the aileron neutral position and it finally dawned on me I could easily add washout by just cutting the tips of the ailerons then hot gluing them with a little up angle. This should add stability with minimal drag... a bit like toe-in on a car.
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JohnRambozo
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Just for the records, Sponz, as you can see in my video, I didn't experience any of these bad tendencies. A great and fun little plane with those signature insane roll rates.
JohnRambozo
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Last Baby Baron post, I promise. I had to share this because I only recently realized my iphone does 60fps. So here's a hi-res 60fps video of the Baby Baron handling some pretty strong winds without even flinching. Rolls like a dream, loops, Split-S, Immelmans and whatever else I'm doing. Great design, Dan (sponz)!
Capt_Beavis
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Maybe my build was heavy because of paint? I love the plane.
Just for the records, Sponz, as you can see in my video, I didn't experience any of these bad tendencies. A great and fun little plane with those signature insane roll rates.
JohnRambozo
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Maybe, or the battery. I'm only using a 2S 500mah battery and getting a little over 5 minutes on flight time.
Capt_Beavis
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I have flown it with a 1200mAh 2s but I was usually flying with a 500mAh. I know use a 3s 500mAh. I would get my stalls on tight turns or trying to do loops at lower speed.
Post as many videos as you want. I always enjoy watching people fly my designs. Great piloting and nice job on your build. That was fun to watch.
JohnRambozo
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Thank you for the compliment and for the awesome design. Maybe one or two more videos. I got some new props to try out. A 6x4 and 5x5 airplane prop. That last one was just a multirotor prop and I don't think its that efficient for forward flight. I'm hoping for more speed!
Capt_Beavis
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The Red one I call the "Bloody Ugly" it is the one with a fully undercamber extended wing. I don't have a name for the white one yet but it has the wing extended a total of 4in and a modified tail. It has a rudder too. I will need to open up the servo port for it. Hopefully I will have a maiden report after the weekend but I am not sure I will fly Sunday due to Easter.
Capt_Beavis
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JohnRambozo
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If the weather cooperates, we'll find out this weekend! I hope to see the maiden of your modified Baron, too.
Capt_Beavis
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Thanks to Notreallyme for the video. I think this was our 3rd flight but all on one battery. I needed very little trim. This doesn't show the roll rate well but it is really fast. Inverted it great and it does a nice high alpha. I may add a counter balance to the rudder for more authority but it will do flatish turns. My original Baron was definitely at the end of its life. The paper was letting go on the horizontal stabilizer ad the wing was coming apart. This puts me a little closer towards designing my own plane.
Video Link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/38ey7p3bokbtrsp/20160324_170409.mp4?dl=0
Video Link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/38ey7p3bokbtrsp/20160324_170409.mp4?dl=0
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Traveler_67
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Nice designs
Beautiful design(s). I just got my Battle Buddies combo yesterday & already have the Wonder flight ready. Will build the Bloody Baron today & the Baby Baron tonight. A couple of questions, is there any plans for doing a Baby Wonder? I showed a buddy a video of the Baby Baron & a video of the Bloody Baron & Wonder doing combat and he is hyped to try some combat but he wants a small Wonder to match (oppose) my Baby Baron. I was thinking if we did that at our club, we might get more members interested in this aspect of the hobby.
Also, Sponz, did you ever do the article on using printed graphics & packing tape for finishing planes?
The only thing I hate about the Flite Test website is that I only found it a couple months ago LOL.
I've built the Mighty Mini Corsair (I'm a F-4 Corsair & P-38 Lightning freak LOL) the FT Bronco, which I modified the
high-elevator tail to include dual rudders, to match my balsa OV-10 Bronco), and as mentioned earlier, the Bloody Wonder. But I don't think I've been as excited about either of those builds as I am of both of the Barons. I gotta have the Baby to match the Bloody Baron, as I love the ultra micros, especially if it's a umx of one of my bigger planes.
One final question, as the Bloody Wonder can do vertical takeoff, has anyone attempted to LAND it vertically (tail first, not nose first LOL)? I know it would take skill, but with the right power setup, bring it in low & moderately slow, go into a low hover & slowly bleed off power until she settles on the ground on her tail.
Beautiful design(s). I just got my Battle Buddies combo yesterday & already have the Wonder flight ready. Will build the Bloody Baron today & the Baby Baron tonight. A couple of questions, is there any plans for doing a Baby Wonder? I showed a buddy a video of the Baby Baron & a video of the Bloody Baron & Wonder doing combat and he is hyped to try some combat but he wants a small Wonder to match (oppose) my Baby Baron. I was thinking if we did that at our club, we might get more members interested in this aspect of the hobby.
Also, Sponz, did you ever do the article on using printed graphics & packing tape for finishing planes?
The only thing I hate about the Flite Test website is that I only found it a couple months ago LOL.
I've built the Mighty Mini Corsair (I'm a F-4 Corsair & P-38 Lightning freak LOL) the FT Bronco, which I modified the
high-elevator tail to include dual rudders, to match my balsa OV-10 Bronco), and as mentioned earlier, the Bloody Wonder. But I don't think I've been as excited about either of those builds as I am of both of the Barons. I gotta have the Baby to match the Bloody Baron, as I love the ultra micros, especially if it's a umx of one of my bigger planes.
One final question, as the Bloody Wonder can do vertical takeoff, has anyone attempted to LAND it vertically (tail first, not nose first LOL)? I know it would take skill, but with the right power setup, bring it in low & moderately slow, go into a low hover & slowly bleed off power until she settles on the ground on her tail.
@Traveler_67
I started working on a Mighty Mini MkIII (60% version of the Bloody Wonder MkIII) last year. I had one at Flite Fest, but I had stability issues with it. Shortly after that, I was finalizing the design and plans for the Bloody Baron for the Flite Test Community Series release. A month or so later, I was working on the plans for Flite Test in an official capacity. I haven't been doing a lot with my own designs since that started. I do want to revisit the Mini MkIII at some point. But, to be honest, I have bigger plans for a combat fuselage v2.0. The mini wight have to wait until the new fuse is worked out.
I did not write an article on paper decal and packing tape finishing. Still need to do that. Have a couple articles that I need to write actually. Just need to find the time to do it.
I started working on a Mighty Mini MkIII (60% version of the Bloody Wonder MkIII) last year. I had one at Flite Fest, but I had stability issues with it. Shortly after that, I was finalizing the design and plans for the Bloody Baron for the Flite Test Community Series release. A month or so later, I was working on the plans for Flite Test in an official capacity. I haven't been doing a lot with my own designs since that started. I do want to revisit the Mini MkIII at some point. But, to be honest, I have bigger plans for a combat fuselage v2.0. The mini wight have to wait until the new fuse is worked out.
I did not write an article on paper decal and packing tape finishing. Still need to do that. Have a couple articles that I need to write actually. Just need to find the time to do it.
