Ok flight update. No flaps low throws or your looking for trouble. Flys at 1/2 throttle ok, a little more then half and its great. I got up about two mistakes high and it was even more fun. Loops...... Doesn't think twice and saying no. Rolls........ Like a spiral! Glide slope isn't too bad either. Needs a touch of elevator to keep it level but other wise glides great. Now for the scary part...... Flaps. Well I've never used them so I don't know what to expect. Turn them on and nose pitches right up and it wants to stall. I think I need to put them at 50% and try again. Since the tree incident I'm chasing flaws on the plane. The front on the tube got crushed so everything is all loose up there. The Velcro I used pulled two big chunks out of the foam on the last landing when something went goofy and it rolled to the left and crashed the battery flew out of the makeshift nose I made. So I'm thinking about going smaller on the next one. Say a two inch tube a single armin wing and the twin vertical tail set up. The number of motors........ I'm thinking one built into the nose like Ed has built his pods with a single motor. I think two would be crazy. Then again I could mount them at the edges of the wing to make it look "ospreyish"...... Hummmmmm that might be quite cool. Could make a side mounted rotation system using servos to rotate the pod up or down to have some VTOL stuff. That's it that's what I going to do. Since this current frame is falling apart and is being held together with BBQ squers, tape and hot glue.... I could salvage parts from this one and build the homemade "osprey"