Figuring out cg for this application is a guess and test operation. Hopefully by me doing it, it saves others some time.
You do not want to dial it back, you need the throw for basic things like hovering. Key is to dial back your thumbs and learn the art of fine stick control.
@Photo001 flew with no issues with the elevator and ailerons set to rates of 75% and 70% expo. I would guess his skill is not far off most people here. So set 3 rates. Rudder always 100% and 70% expo, others with low rates at 50% and expo 50%, mid rates 75% and expo 70%, high rates 100% and 70%.