FAA Approved Remote ID List?

[Captain Video]

Good Afternoon everyone. I was just on the FAA site. As of August 1st, there are only 234 FRIA site in all of the United States. Ohio only has four. Two are Air Force sites, one in Columbus and the other in Dayton. Columbus' site is actually an INDOOR facility. This is getting silly. I have stronger words for this but this is a family forum. How is the RC flying community supposed to take this whole FAA regulation of RC aircraft seriously when they cannot meet their own deadline? I have purchased two Drone Tag Remote ID units. I will report how they work perhaps this weekend. Thoughts?

 

[LitterBug]

Good Afternoon everyone. I was just on the FAA site. As of August 1st, there are only 234 FRIA site in all of the United States. Ohio only has four. Two are Air Force sites, one in Columbus and the other in Dayton. Columbus' site is actually an INDOOR facility. This is getting silly. I have stronger words for this but this is a family forum. How is the RC flying community supposed to take this whole FAA regulation of RC aircraft seriously when they cannot meet their own deadline? I have purchased two Drone Tag Remote ID units. I will report how they work perhaps this weekend. Thoughts?

This whole thing is as big of a mess as ADSB was for General Aviation. All to "reduce all the deaths" caused by our hobby. OH WAIT, that doesn't happen.....

 

[Mr NCT]

All to "reduce all the deaths" caused by our hobby.

I am ALL for reducing deaths in the hobby, particularly the deaths of our scale pilots. Three, four or even five point restraints should be mandatory for any RC scale pilot with anything approaching human features! Anyone using animal figures risks the rath of PETA, but that's another thread.

 

[thacan]

The Flite Test EZ ID is no-where to be found. Does anyone have a Remote ID module in hand today (any make)? If so what is it and where did you get it. I can't find anything for sale that isn't preorder or >$300 from Europe.

Out of the half dozen or so flying sites in my city, none have been approved for FRIA and at least two that I know of have been denied and these two aren't city parks like some of the others. So unless the FAA changes course very soon, come Sept 16 it looks like we will be sub 250gm, grounded, or criminals.

 

[Flying Monkey fab]

come Sept 16 it looks like we will be sub 250gm, grounded, or criminals.

This looks to be an accurate assessment.
The FT unit only exists in a press release at this time.
The spectrum is in prerelease, and the $300 units that do exist are all backordered.
There are zero FRIA within reasonable driving distance but my local club has not heard back.
The only good news is that I tend to fly in the middle of nowhere and the county depity sheriffs tend to have better things to do like trolling their major roads looking for revenue.

 

[LitterBug]

We still have 16 days till then. It will all work out within that time frame. I'm sure by then, the FAA will quit acting in bad faith and actually post the list of approved FRIAs in the area they direct everyone to rather than obscuring this "public" information from the public as well. :-D

 

[CappyAmeric]

This whole thing is as big of a mess as ADSB was for General Aviation. All to "reduce all the deaths" caused by our hobby. OH WAIT, that doesn't happen.....

Except ADS-B is not required for flight in class G airspace. Which makes the whole Remote ID fiasco so egregious. You can fly a full sized aircraft without any electronic identification in class G airspace - but not a foam one. If the FAA was reasonable, they would have simply said that Standard/Remote ID was required for UAS flights above 400 AGL, or any airspace other than Class G - JUST LIKE manned aircraft.

 

[CappyAmeric]

We still have 16 days till then. It will all work out within that time frame. I'm sure by then, the FAA will quit acting in bad faith and actually post the list of approved FRIAs in the area they direct everyone to rather than obscuring this "public" information from the public as well. :-D

The FAA will never quit acting in bad faith because they are a petty bureaucracy - and they do not have the resources or the incentive to do anything other than churn out "regulations" and manage public relations. "Safety" mainly means avoiding public fiascos to the FAA.

Stay away from airports.

 

[craigleach]

Good Afternoon everyone. I was just on the FAA site. As of August 1st, there are only 234 FRIA site in all of the United States. Ohio only has four. Two are Air Force sites, one in Columbus and the other in Dayton. Columbus' site is actually an INDOOR facility. This is getting silly. I have stronger words for this but this is a family forum. How is the RC flying community supposed to take this whole FAA regulation of RC aircraft seriously when they cannot meet their own deadline? I have purchased two Drone Tag Remote ID units. I will report how they work perhaps this weekend. Thoughts?

Good Afternoon everyone. I was just on the FAA site. As of August 1st, there are only 234 FRIA site in all of the United States. Ohio only has four. Two are Air Force sites, one in Columbus and the other in Dayton. Columbus' site is actually an INDOOR facility. This is getting silly. I have stronger words for this but this is a family forum. How is the RC flying community supposed to take this whole FAA regulation of RC aircraft seriously when they cannot meet their own deadline? I have purchased two Drone Tag Remote ID units. I will report how they work perhaps this weekend. Thoughts?

The FRIA list has not been updated online. The data you quoted is not up to date. My local flying field, WMAA at Alum Creek dam HAS been approved and is not on the list. The FAA has said that they HOPE to have the list published by the deadline.

 

[Boxo53]

As above, the Recreational Flyer Fixed Sites database is NOT the FRIA list. Many of them have been in existence long before FRIAs were conceptualized. They are flying fields that operate within controlled airspace ( near tower controlled airports) under specific agreements with the airport.

 

[Hyperdrive]

The remote ID deadline is about 6 weeks away. September 16, 2023 is coming on very fast. Just a handful of modules available. FAA is slooow walking FRIA approvals.

Either they will delay the deadline or they will make all of us criminals.

Just a quick question, does this apply to UK or is it just US

 

[Merv]

Just a quick question, does this apply to UK or is it just US

It's a US thing.

I have no idea what is happening in the UK. I suspect more regulations are coming everywhere. Most of the world is jumping on board with sub 250g being expect from regulation but I believe Japan is 100g or less.

I have enough trouble keeping up with US regulations so don't rely on my impression if you are outside the US.

 

[Merv]

... I'm sure by then, the FAA will quit acting in bad faith and actually post the list of approved FRIAs...

And I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. 😆😆😆

 

[Hyperdrive]

It's a US thing.

I have no idea what is happening in the UK. I suspect more regulations are coming everywhere. Most of the world is jumping on board with sub 250g being expect from regulation but I believe Japan is 100g or less.

I have enough trouble keeping up with US regulations so don't rely on my impression if you are outside the US.

Thanks!

 

[LitterBug]

Like ADSB, looking like RID is being pushed back.

 

[CappyAmeric]

Like ADSB, looking like RID is being pushed back.

Clearly the FAA understands that you have to make sure modules are available otherwise a significant number of people will not ever comply. I am not sure if it will make much difference. Most people will not comply either way.

Plus, since there is a chance of a government shutdown. Only essential government employees will be working in that case, and a significant number of non-ATC FAA employees will be sent home.

 

[Mr NCT]

Like ADSB, looking like RID is being pushed back.

I haven't seen any other confirmation of a push back of Sept 16th. Has anyone else seen a press release, etc?

 

[CappyAmeric]

Maybe this is why FT didn't get their FRIA approved. FAA is too worried FT foamboard can be used for nefarious purposes. 🤣

Looks the same anyway.

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[Merv]

I haven't seen any other confirmation of a push back of Sept 16th. Has anyone else seen a press release, etc?

I have seen lot of speculation, but no real news.

With NO RID modules in stock anywhere and slooow walking the FRIA process. I hope the news of the postponement comes soon.

Either they postpone the implementation of RID or they will make criminals of us all.

 

[CappyAmeric]

I have seen lot of speculation, but no real news.

With NO RID modules in stock anywhere and slooow walking the FRIA process. I hope the news of the postponement comes soon.

Either they postpone the implementation of RID or they will make criminals of us all.

LOL. Based on the size of the Federal Register, I can assure you that every American citizen is already a criminal. Regardless, agency regulations are punishable if violated, but they actually are not laws, and violation of them does not make one a "criminal" since violation is not a crime.

Weird, but consider this: if you are deemed in violation of an FAA regulation, you do not have the right to a jury trial. You are not assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. An "administrative law judge" (not an actual judge) decides. Seems kind of against every governmental assurance from the US Constitution back to the Magna Carta, now doesn't it?